OT -- dishwasher

Bought GE from H Depot--broken ppart on door when unboxed..they would not send tech out for cosmetic problem--it was not just cosmetic--they sent part for me fix it myself--one of the replacement parts was broken and the door would have had to be torn apart--took it back and demanded a refund....Ordered knemore on line-got it--first time top rack was pulled out it fell apart--at lAST IT HAPPENED before installation...now it sits in our living room waiting for a replacent that is suppose to be available 2/14---are any of them any good anymore?? Sure hope it fits the hole where I currently have one--looks like they vary in size some..

My wife and I have had great luck with Bosch dishwashers. The original lasted through 16 years of hard use before it suffered a fatal electronic control panel issue The new one is off to a great start. They are very quiet as well.

It is too bad that you had this happen to you. I've had good luck with the whirlpool lines. Both myself and a co-worker ordered new appliances and went with whirlpool and both had good luck. It is sad to say now-a-days that you are lucky when you buy something and the fit, form and function of it is exactly as ordered.

(quoted from post at 07:33:28 02/07/17) Bought GE from H Depot--broken ppart on door when unboxed..they would not send tech out for cosmetic problem--it was not just cosmetic--they sent part for me fix it myself--one of the replacement parts was broken and the door would have had to be torn apart--took it back and demanded a refund....Ordered knemore on line-got it--first time top rack was pulled out it fell apart--at lAST IT HAPPENED before installation...now it sits in our living room waiting for a replacent that is suppose to be available 2/14---are any of them any good anymore?? Sure hope it fits the hole where I currently have one--looks like they vary in size some..

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I have tried and given up on machines from Kenmore, GE, Whilrpool, KitchenAide, and Bosch. Your problems seem to be the norm with them and after a year or two the cost of keeping them running outweighs the cost of a new machine. Right now I am in the third year of a $700 LG and so far so good. It's super quiet, cleans exceptionally well, and there have been none of the past problems with racks, doors, controls, etc. I have been so impressed I purchased a new LG washing machine last year. They aren't cheap machines but after pumping money into the cheap ones just to keep them running it appears to be cost effective ;-)

YMMV,

TOH

The 'electronic control panel'. Wow, if there was ever a reason to keep the old ones running, that is a great one. I refuse buying a dishwasher with 'buttons' for the functions. Our Maytag dishwasher is over 15 years old and the ONLY thing that failed was the mechanical timer. In the first week! Yeah, I heard about that from the Wife for a looong time afterward (she didn't want a dishwasher). My daughter is on her THIRD Dishwasher for control board failures, and that's about twelve years in. My first Wife (and only) and I when we married had our Parents ask us if we wanted a 'special' wedding gift. Since I was a bachelor but had a home of my own we said a Laundry pair would be nice. They pooled their resources and bought us a matching washer/dryer combination, Whirlpool brand. We raised two fine girls with that 'combo' and finally the washer died. Replaced with a Maytag, which gave up at three years(transmission). That clothes dryer is STILL doing it's job--Harvest Gold with the enamel worn off as so many clothes has gone through it. ALL Mechanical timers; No electronics at all.

I've had my dishwasher for 39 years and love it. I've looked at newer models and almost fell in love with some, but then decided that I better keep the one I've got. No use in going thur that worry of how things will fit as they do come in several sizes.

Besides keeping the dishes clean, my dishwasher is a multi-tasking model that can also run the vacuum cleaner, wash the clothes, pay the bill, cook the meals, and do the shopping. ;>)

I just wanted to add that they are all pretty much standard in size to fit the space between a counter top and a floor and all made to fit a 24 inch width. There is a slim model made for smaller spaces but they are rare and don't hold much for washing capacity. There is one notable exception and that can be a life saver or space saver. There are ADA compliant models that are 1 1/2 inches less in height which will save your butt when someone has added too much flooring in a room with an older installation.

our Kenmore over the stove microwave lasted eight years before it crapped out. our whirlpool 40in oven is going strong after 17 years as is our kitchen aide dishwasher of the same age. not arguing just another point of view.

When researching this some years ago, I came across a Fisher & Paykel brand which is more common in Europe, but can be found in most cities at one dealer. One model has two bins..., an upper and lower cabinet. Since it is just wife and me now, that works great for small loads, uses less water, and has been very reliable which was my #1 criteria. When wife is away, I use one for clean and one for dirty, and never have to put things up. Don't tell her though. My town has a dishwasher factory which makes several "brand names," but they are all a cheapo frame and guts with different face plates; probably designed with a two year work period.

Our Maytag is going strong after 32 years. Had to replace a door spring a decade ago but that's it.

A funny thing happened to it the other day. Wife got ambitious the other day and cleaned the filter, then ran the machine empty to clean up the mess. only to have water pour out from around the door. I figured she must have damaged something inside, but couldn't find what. Checked the seal, and it was so badly shrunk as to almost not be there, but it had been like that the day before, too, and worked fine then so I couldn't see how that could be the problem. Checked the drain hose and fill timer, the overflow valve, all OK. Finally it dawned me - could the problem be that she had run it empty? Without dishes inside to act as baffles, the door seal must have been taking the full pressure of the sprayers, which was more than the shriveled old seal could handle. Filled it with dishes, and it was fine.

(quoted from post at 15:30:20 02/07/17) The 'electronic control panel'. Wow, if there was ever a reason to keep the old ones running, that is a great one.

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I think the design life of most appliances is about 10 years. They really don't "make em' like the used to". Most dishwashers are mostly plastic. With Sears Kenmore, you have to break down the model number to see who made it. Stray away from LG in refrigerators, they have a habit of bad coils. Bosch dishwashers are very quiet and rate well. I'm not sure if there are any appliance makers that manufacture here in USA anymore.

we have a fridg. made by F/P. made in new Zealand I believe.

(quoted from post at 08:59:18 02/07/17) My wife and I have had great luck with Bosch dishwashers. The original lasted through 16 years of hard use before it suffered a fatal electronic control panel issue The new one is off to a great start. They are very quiet as well.

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Same here except my original died from soap dispenser problems. I now have two Boschs, one at home and one at my cottage. The newest one is so quiet that they shine a red LED at the floor to let you know it's running.

THANKS EVERYONE--WISH i HAD JUST PUT NEW DOOR SPRINGS ON THE OLD gIPSON DISHWASHER AND HOPE THAT
WOULD HELP IT KEEP FROM LEAKING--EVERYTHING ELSE STILL WORKS FINE--HAD IT ABOUT 20 YRS...sTILL
LOOKS AS GOOD AS THE NEW ONES TOO...