hand crank on 9n Ford

When I bought my 9n, it came with the original hand crank. Is there is hook or bracket on the tractor somewhere to store the crank? All I could find was some bailing wire under the seat.

The crank was stored on the fender on two small brackets,

I would not try cranking the tractor with that crank though as the ignition timing is not designed for it when they have battery start. The timing will be before top dead center and you might get a broken arm or a broken jaw etc.

Zane

Timing should not be before TDC or it will kick against the starter too.

(quoted from post at 11:33:59 08/29/12) Timing should not be before TDC or it will kick against the starter too.

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static timing on an 8n is 4 degrees BTDC and it seems to work good.

A crank is useful if you are doing valve work on the engine but dangerous for starting an engine.My uncle got his nose broken cranking a Chevy.Friend came to school with his arm in a cast. got it cranking a Farm All.So many fellows got their arms broken cranking Model T Fords they called it Model T arm.Kettering developed the electric starter after a friend died from cranking a car.Thats what I know about about hand cranks.

The crank was stored on the fender on two small brackets,
Zane

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I have never seen the hand crank stored on the fender of any N series tractor. What brackets are you talking about?

here are some pic"s of a crank holder under the seat that I found on this or the other site.




Gary (Or)

cranking a engine with a hand crank is not overly dangerous,IF and this is a big IF you know how to do it properly. 99.9% of the folks you see cranking a engine are doing it 100% wrong. a good engine,with good fuel and spark, will start if one cyl goes over top dead center.ALL you should have to do is take your left hand, engage the crank in its slot,turn crank until you feel compression, and pull sharply up to roll it over tdc. you should never push a crank,thats what breaks your arm, and under no circumstances just keep cranking until it fires,thats when it kills you. simply by pulling up,and not pushing,cranking one by hand is as safe as starting any other way.you do it every time you pull a rope on a piece of lawn equipment,kick start a motorcycle,pull a rope on a boat motor etc. and believe it or not in the right circumstance that rope can break your arm also. one other thing can hurt you with a crank is if it has grooves worn so crank cant disengage,but thats not a real fault of the system,its a wear problem thats easily corrected and should be part of your starting procedure to check. The main trouble is that the tractors, trucks,cars and things that use this are old and most are far less than perfect. if you have one that wont startby simply rolling one cyl over tdc,take the crank and hang it on the wall,park your machine on a hill or pull it to start,OR do something radical and FIX IT!iv estarted a ton of them with nothing more than a rod with a bolt through the end.use a pipe wrench for a handle and it will disengage when it fires. never ,ever under any circumstance crank one while working on it unless you KNOW the mag is grounded and or ignition is off.many an old farmer met his end this way. all that tractor has to do is fire once ,on one cyl,with it in gear,and it can be on top of you with no possibility of help.

I have had a small engine kick back, usually a loose mower knife.I kick started an Indian motorcycle that would kick back for no reason, just did it.I watched people spin a crank too.In any case I wont hand crank any engine now.

That was probably a war time no battery tractor with a magneto ignition.

I wasn't planning on cracking my tractor. Was just wondering where it was stored on the tractor. Someone cranked my tractor a lot before i got it. The socket on the front pulley was compleletly wore out. I replaced it with a bolt. The crank has deep groves in it from rubbing on the hole in the grill.