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Refirbished Ford Toolkit Screwdriver

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Dan

07-21-2006 05:03:26




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You all remember the old rusty original Ford N Series toolkit screwdriver I got at a flea market a few weeks ago for $.25 (one quarter)? Well, here is the finished product. I wire wheeled the metal and it was in surprisingly good shape after I straightened the shaft in my vise. The ferrule rivet was missing, so I got some hing pins from another board member to replace it - perfect fit by the way. I had to put some wood glue on the shaft to secure the wood as the handle had dries up so much it was sliding around on the shaft. I used wood filler to fill in the cracks and most of the big gouges, plus to build up the rounded end closest to the ferrule that was completely destroyed. Put two coats of enamel black on the handle, and she is good to go. Due to the extensive damage on the handle, it is only good for a show piece - but for a quarter and some labor, at least it is preserved for a few more years.

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dave guest

07-23-2006 20:11:02




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 Re: Refirbished Ford Toolkit Screwdriver in reply to Dan, 07-21-2006 05:03:26  
Looks real good. Call me disgusted I have all these tools from my dad who gave 40 years to FoMoCo. I even had a leatherette pouch for them and if you gave me a million bucks, I don't know where to find half of these but I will start looking. Guess they are better than Craftsman, huh?



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dave guest

07-23-2006 20:10:53




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 Re: Refirbished Ford Toolkit Screwdriver in reply to Dan, 07-21-2006 05:03:26  
Looks real good. Call me disgusted I have all these tools from my dad who gave 40 years to FoMoCo. I even had a leatherette pouch for them and if you gave me a million bucks, I don't know where to find half of these but I will start looking. Guess they are better than Craftsman, huh?



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Peter, Covington, LA

07-21-2006 15:28:47




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 Re: Refirbished Ford Toolkit Screwdriver in reply to Dan, 07-21-2006 05:03:26  
Several comments, besides that your screwdriver refurbishing job looks great!

1) From the picture, it looks as though that is the same screwdriver that came with Johnson and Evinrude outboard motors of the period. Makes me wonder who made them back then. What we now would call OEM.

2) I also check another Forum every day - the Model T Ford Club. This thread makes me feel right at home, because putting together "original" kits of tools is a pastime of many Model T owners (not me - mine is a "driver"). Most if not all of the tools shown above are the same I see on the Model T forum. There's also a lot of back-and-forth about the size and specifications of the roll-up pouch they came in, and how to get a local shop to make an exact duplicate.

3) There are two rust-removal techniques that have been extensively covered on the Model T forum. One involves suspending your part inside a plastic bucket filled with water and washing soda, into which are also stuck one or more pieces of iron or steel (most folks use re-bar), and applying voltage from a battery charger. I won't try to give you the polarity and the size charger needed, because I have forgotten, but if anyone wants them, I'll get them for you. It leaves the part rust-free and with a black finish.

The other is the more fascinating one to me. It involves tossing the part (your screwdriver, say) into a bucket, tank, or pot into which a mixture of one pound of molasses to one gallon of water have been added. You simply let it sit for about 3 weeks and the part comes out like new. You need to leave it outdoors, apparently, because the molasses ferments and stinks, but plenty of folks have tried it on everything from bolts & nuts to whole fenders, and it works!

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Dan

07-21-2006 16:03:44




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 Re: Refirbished Ford Toolkit Screwdriver in reply to Peter, Covington, LA, 07-21-2006 15:28:47  
Some great info. I have tried electrolysis rust removal before, usually on odd shaped items that is hard to get a wire wheel to. The problem is it takes several hours to days depending on how extensive the rust is - and I am much too impatient for that. Plus, if you use rebar (which I do) the surface area is so small that you have to constantly wire brush the "crud" off to keep a good current flow. Also, you have to dispose of the resultant sludge afterwards as well. So usually I just use a wire wheel on most small stuff and am done in a few minutes. If I really want to protect the area, I usually spray it down with phosphoric acid afterwards to kill any small amount of rust hiding in pits and such.

I have never heard of the molasses trick - that is interesting. However; I did use straight white venegar once to clean the coulter check chain on my 1941 Ferguson plow. It is much slower, like your molasses trick, and took about four days or so. Here is the before and after pics:

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Thanks for the reply,
Dan

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FarmerDawn

07-21-2006 09:39:47




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 Re: Refirbished Ford Toolkit Screwdriver in reply to Dan, 07-21-2006 05:03:26  
WOW! That is AMAZING! I guess when you found the screwdriver at a flea market it must have been back when I wasn't able to read the forum much, as I'd missed it. This is just so wonderful!!!

Dawn



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JohnJ_PA

07-21-2006 08:39:00




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 Re: Refirbished Ford Toolkit Screwdriver in reply to Dan, 07-21-2006 05:03:26  
Excellent! ! ! !



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Tim...Ok

07-21-2006 08:15:23




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 Re: Refirbished Ford Toolkit Screwdriver in reply to Dan, 07-21-2006 05:03:26  
We expected no less from you..looks great buddy

Tim



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Chad OH

07-21-2006 06:21:13




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 Re: Refirbished Ford Toolkit Screwdriver in reply to Dan, 07-21-2006 05:03:26  
Nice job Dan.
That kind of work is fun for me because it's not something that you feel under the gun to get done.

Take care,
Chad



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Rush-N

07-21-2006 06:11:14




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 Re: Refirbished Ford Toolkit Screwdriver in reply to Dan, 07-21-2006 05:03:26  
Dan, It looks like everything you put your hands on turns to gold, "thats Tractor Gold". Thanks for the pictures.
Mark :)



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Fly N

07-21-2006 05:16:54




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 Re: Refirbished Ford Toolkit Screwdriver in reply to Dan, 07-21-2006 05:03:26  
I just got an old 2N as a gift from my brother in law and my sister. I've been watching on this site for info and I saw some of these tools. I thought "Where have I seen that before"? Well, Dad passed on around 8 yrs ago and I inherited some tools. I was looking around in the barn through some of them and behold, I found a genuine Spark plug head wrench in very good condition. Now, I will keep my eyes peeled for all these tidbits. Maybe someday, I'll have a full set..... I think you got a hell of a buy for a quarter. More Good Luck to ya!

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Dan

07-21-2006 06:34:41




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 Re: Refirbished Ford Toolkit Screwdriver in reply to Fly N, 07-21-2006 05:16:54  
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Here is what the entire set looks like. I use my spark plug wrench the most out of all the tools (I carry complete original tool sets on all my tractors). The spark plug wrench is the perfect size and shape to get under the gas tank to remove a spark plug.

I have spare pliers, the two small open end wrenches, plow wrench, spark plug wrench, and screwdriver. The spare monkey wrench I was given by my BIL looks like the one in this pic, but has a square plug on the end of the handle and was made for a Model A car. I may grind it down so I can mount my spare tools on a board like this pic for display purposes.

HTH,
Dan

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Leroy

07-21-2006 05:16:51




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 Re: Refirbished Ford Toolkit Screwdriver in reply to Dan, 07-21-2006 05:03:26  
What model N would that have been from? I have a screwdriver that looks like that but it is not what came new with my 44 2N as that is an all metal screwdriver? How long is yours?



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Dan

07-21-2006 06:30:33




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 Re: Refirbished Ford Toolkit Screwdriver in reply to Leroy, 07-21-2006 05:16:51  
These screwdrivers came with the 9N 2N and 8N tractors (and maybe the NAA as well) and looked exactly like these. The Fordson tractors came with an all metal screwdriver that had four ribs on the handle (I have one of those as well). These screwdrivers were also in the Model A cars as well.

These original screwdrivers are between 8 1/2" and 8 5/8" long, and the shaft goes all the way through the handle and can be seen from the butt end of the screwdriver when looking at the end.

HTH,
Dan

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K.LaRue-VA

07-21-2006 07:33:56




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 Re: Refirbished Ford Toolkit Screwdriver in reply to Dan, 07-21-2006 06:30:33  
I have found two variations of the screwdriver. Both are as you described. They are about 8-5/8" long, with wooden handles, and have the shaft all the way through the handle.

One has a B stamped on the blade, but does not have the rivet. The other has the rivet but no stamp on the blade. I believe both are genuine Ford tractor screwdrivers.

Just a little more information. For anyone who wants more information about these tools, follow this link.

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Fly N

07-21-2006 05:21:09




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 Re: Refirbished Ford Toolkit Screwdriver in reply to Leroy, 07-21-2006 05:16:51  
Kinda off subject but what is the serial on yer 2N? Mine's a '44 too serial 9N165100. What state are you in also?



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