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carvel minne farmer

03-02-2018 19:01:46




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found these 2 aluminum brackets under the hyd. oil tank in all the muck, 1 is broken and the other looks good. can not find them in the parts manual, or service manual?? anyone know what they are for or where they go?

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carvel minne farmer

03-14-2018 14:46:09




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 Re: what are these pieces? in reply to carvel minne farmer, 03-02-2018 19:01:46  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see correction by me bob, you where right on them being char-lynn exactly like that. with all the muck and debre in there, I finally got the tank off, the hoses and fittings all out of the way, cleaned it all up and now looking for 1 more good bracket to hold the left side valve. I installed the 1 good one I found in the muck.

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carvel minne farmer

03-04-2018 20:54:07




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 Re: what are these pieces? in reply to carvel minne farmer, 03-02-2018 19:01:46  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see thank you gb. that way sounds easier than what I had in mind, will give it a go. thanks again.



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carvel minne farmer

03-04-2018 20:51:14




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 Re: what are these pieces? in reply to carvel minne farmer, 03-02-2018 19:01:46  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see thank you bob, that gives me a clear picture of what and how they looked, the valves that are in the tractor don't look like that so will assume they have been changed out. will know for sure when I get the tank assembly out. thanks again bob.



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Bob

03-04-2018 13:13:37




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 Re: what are these pieces? in reply to carvel minne farmer, 03-02-2018 19:01:46  
FWIW, here's how they fit on the Char-Lynn valve. Obviously, you have one complete one, and two broken parts of another.



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carvel minne farmer

03-03-2018 19:11:51




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 Re: what are these pieces? in reply to carvel minne farmer, 03-02-2018 19:01:46  
oh by the way gb. your welcome on the storm, but it won't be there for a while! it's still here dumping on us :( but it will be coming your way and then on over to bruce in Ontario! he hasn't got any snow left and I feel bad for him so sending him a bunch :lol:



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carvel minne farmer

03-03-2018 19:08:34




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 Re: what are these pieces? in reply to carvel minne farmer, 03-02-2018 19:01:46  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see thanks gb. I plan on going in with the hoses and couplers to my local hydraulic shop, those guys know hydraulics and will custom build you what ever you need. I will take all the old hoses and fittings in with me and get mike to build me all new ones. and I know what you mean about limited room under the seat. getting the tank drained(found drain pipe) and getting it out is going to be fun. I will be getting hyd. hoses for the hyd. system and rad hoses for the cooling system! already learned that one the hard way years ago :lol:

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molinegb

03-04-2018 14:23:49




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 Re: what are these pieces? in reply to carvel minne farmer, 03-03-2018 19:08:34  
Checked 3 M5's. Two had Grescan and one has original Charlyn.



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molinegb

03-04-2018 12:33:12




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 Re: what are these pieces? in reply to carvel minne farmer, 03-03-2018 19:08:34  
Easiest way is take out the 6 bolts that hold assembly to rearend. There is 4 big 15/16 on back and 2 or 4 3/8 on front. Remove lines to pump and lift whole seat assembly off.



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carvel minne farmer

03-03-2018 08:10:47




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 Re: what are these pieces? in reply to carvel minne farmer, 03-02-2018 19:01:46  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see thanks MMDEL, the valves look dry from what I can see, just the hoses rotten and weeping so will drain the tank and remove, clean up, and change out all the hoses. mystery solved! thanks again



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carvel minne farmer

03-03-2018 07:45:30




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 Re: what are these pieces? in reply to carvel minne farmer, 03-02-2018 19:01:46  
thank you gary that explains that mystery!, now what are you doing this afternoon :lol: its got to get done gb. so i'll be draining and removing tank to get all the hoses changed out (all rotten and weeping) from what I can see the valves themselves are ok, they look dry from what I can see, but once I get the tank off i'll get a better look. thanks again.



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molinegb

03-03-2018 16:16:47




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 Re: what are these pieces? in reply to carvel minne farmer, 03-03-2018 07:45:30  
Hoses are not just rad hoses. They have to be for oil otherwise... Just took two apart to get pto shaft out. Most down south not familiar with Type E hydraulics. All we ever see.say
As Del say valves were Charlyn and were poor. Have a scrap one that was converted to Grescan. Later MM used Wooster (M670)valves. They all leaked when hot. First one I did 30 years ago was to add two spools to M670 E type.Needed for grapple fork. Was a challenge as there is limited room under seat. You will find out! Thanks for sending us the storm. Nothing yet but .....

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mmdel

03-03-2018 07:37:56




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 Re: what are these pieces? in reply to carvel minne farmer, 03-02-2018 19:01:46  
Those are the end plates I was talking about!! If your valves don't have them, then somebody switched the valves and left bones lay in that area.
MMDEL



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molinegb

03-03-2018 06:21:35




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 Re: what are these pieces? in reply to carvel minne farmer, 03-02-2018 19:01:46  
Your hydraulics outlets have bee modified. They originally were mounted in two swivel brackets.They used ends common to MM. Forget name. Most were converted to Pioneer. To clean you have to remove whole assembly. Not a fun job!



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carvel minne farmer

03-02-2018 20:41:25




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 Re: what are these pieces? in reply to carvel minne farmer, 03-02-2018 19:01:46  
thanks shaun, I looked as well, my guess is these brackets may have been to hold a different style valve maybe? but all 3 m-5 manuals I have don't show those brackets? and I don't see any place for them to bolt up to or any thing that they would hold in place? going to email Harold the former owner and see if he knows what they did.



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Shaun Wallace

03-02-2018 20:33:44




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 Re: what are these pieces? in reply to carvel minne farmer, 03-02-2018 19:01:46  
I can see Char Lynn 960. Char Lynn supplied hyd for oem and after market. There is couple of posts in archives of this site. I didn't find anything on Char Lynn web site



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ILL John

03-03-2018 05:29:13




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 Re: what are these pieces? in reply to Shaun Wallace, 03-02-2018 20:33:44  
In my Char-Lynn manual I found that 960 is a valve to control a double acting hyd cyl, it can be converted to single acting control if needed. Those pieces may have been the "hold down" bracket for the valve. There is no picture of that in the book



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