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MM G1000 Wheatland LPG

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MinniMan

12-29-2017 21:23:14




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Since I have finished rebuilding our White 2-105 and with these long -36F winter nights I have been thinking about another project. I have a 68 (I think that's the year) G1000 Wheatland (brown belly) LPG tractor and wondered if it would be worth restoring.
I know the engine is stuck but was in good condition as it had been re-bored a few years before it was parked. Tires are shot of course.
How are parts such as gaskets etc to get? I see them listed on here. I don't think it would take much machining to get it back into running order other than cleaning up the pistons, new rings and do the valves. It was running when parked just poor rubber. Is it worth the effort?
It doesn't have the PTO so I really don't have a use for it for actual field work and LPG fuel isn't popular around here other than for Barbeques. Its sitting there and I hate to see it left till it goes to the scrap dealer one day when I am not around.
I guess I'm just dreaming about a warm weather project. Something to get my hands oily.

Comments both for and against are always welcome. I know it's not a yellow belly or Vista just a common model.

MinniMan

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carvel minne farmer

01-12-2018 17:46:43




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 Re: MM G1000 Wheatland LPG in reply to MinniMan, 12-29-2017 21:23:14  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see minniman in regard to your heater core, we used to go scrounging at our local cat dealers used equipment yard and if you have one locally ie Winnipeg, or closer call them and ask if they have a cat grader either a #12 or #14 grader parts machine they are parting out with the heater still in it. we used to put them in the old 50's and 60's ih westcoasters that cassiar asbestos had hauling ore from cassiar b.c. to Whitehorse in the Yukon on the Alaska highway. the ih facrory heaters didn't have enough heat to melt the snow off your boots! we would install a cat grader heater on the floor by the passenger door facing the driver, they have dual multispeed fans on them and when you crank one of them suckers up to high it'll have you stripping down to your calvin kliens in a hurry :lol: in the cab of your white or the g-1000 you could cruise around the farm in your t-shirt and jeans in -40 with the wind blowing!

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MinniMan

01-12-2018 15:08:48




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 Re: MM G1000 Wheatland LPG in reply to MinniMan, 12-29-2017 21:23:14  
Well whatever works. Besides I don't want you to deliver it until you have given it a good testing and make sure everything is perfect. Could take years of testing I expect. :wink:
We haven't used my son's G1000 for any extensive field work so I'm not sure how well it does on fuel per hour. However I have used a 1000 diesel in the past for all major field work and it probably never exceeded 5 gal per hr. The LPG I used burned more fuel but at the time it was much cheaper to buy than diesel. Not the case today. I'm not awareof any field tractors around on LPG. Just forklifts etc.

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MinniMan

01-12-2018 14:51:09




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 Re: MM G1000 Wheatland LPG in reply to MinniMan, 12-29-2017 21:23:14  
Hi Loren

The only work on the cab so far was have the heater core repaired. It was leaking but a rad shop was able to solder it. Apparently "IF" you could find one new it was over $700. We checked for a used one but non local. So was lucky to get the old one fixed.

The interior isn't really in too bad a shape considering the work I had to do on the rest of it. Could use some new padding on the lower portions beside the seat and of course a new seat. So I can't help you on a source for cab interior padding.

I still have to do the AC but will wait till spring for that as our weather is running -30C

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Sodak farmer

01-12-2018 10:41:32




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 Re: MM G1000 Wheatland LPG in reply to MinniMan, 12-29-2017 21:23:14  
MinniMan. Did you do any cab interior work on the White. If so where did you source your repairs? Loren.



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carvel minne farmer

01-12-2018 10:21:56




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 Re: MM G1000 Wheatland LPG in reply to MinniMan, 12-29-2017 21:23:14  
a question minniman do know approx. how many gallons of diesel your son's g 1000 burns per hour? I'm talking about the tractor doing regular work, not max load and throttle wide open.



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carvel minne farmer

01-12-2018 10:17:11




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 Re: MM G1000 Wheatland LPG in reply to MinniMan, 12-29-2017 21:23:14  
unc I will follow your advice and use that line only on rare occasions :lol: or I could use the line that minniman insisted I bring it home and fix it up for him and sorta forget to take it back?



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unc

01-12-2018 08:59:16




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 Re: MM G1000 Wheatland LPG in reply to MinniMan, 12-29-2017 21:23:14  
" It just followed me home honey"

That one only works for a while-don't ask me how I know! unc



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carvel minne farmer

01-12-2018 08:20:19




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 Re: MM G1000 Wheatland LPG in reply to MinniMan, 12-29-2017 21:23:14  
good morning minniman, that is good advice, I can picture that 1000 with my 4/16 plow cruising through the wifes flower garden!! but I better have a full tank just in case she comes out and see's me :lol: now you got me thinking.



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MinniMan

01-12-2018 00:40:51




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 Re: MM G1000 Wheatland LPG in reply to MinniMan, 12-29-2017 21:23:14  
Well every good man has a weakness. In your case it sounds like you have two. The first one being your "Honey" and the second one MM tractors. So like my best friend tells me when he gets into a little hot water, better to beg forgiveness than to ask permission. It would be a shame to see her go to the scrap dealers because every Minni has a story to tell and years of experience to share.
By the way those G1000's will turn mighty short so unless you are tilling your "Honey's" flower bed she will probably settle right in and make herself at home with whatever you are doing. On the other hand maybe you could offer to make that flower garden a wee bit larger if needed. Just give your Honey and Minni a little TLC and all will be fine. :wink:

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carvel minne farmer

01-11-2018 21:51:35




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 Re: MM G1000 Wheatland LPG in reply to MinniMan, 12-29-2017 21:23:14  
thank you minniman, I think if you made him a decent cash offer say $1000.00 he might take it? of course my problem is how do I sneak it home and hide it? it's to dam big to hide!! and way to big for my little operation, of course I could try the "it just followed me home honey" story :lol:



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MinniMan

01-09-2018 21:31:28




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 Re: MM G1000 Wheatland LPG in reply to MinniMan, 12-29-2017 21:23:14  
Hi John.

I bought one for $2000 about 5 years ago that was running with decent rubber. 18.4.34 rears which are less expensive than those 23.1.30s. It was missing on one cylinder but ran ok otherwise. After I got it home I knew by the heat on the energy cells it was the #5 cylinder that was missing. I removed the rear valve cover and found the lock nut and adjustment screw had backed off causing the intake valve to not open. So reset it and warmed her up then re-adjusted to specs and it has ran great.

A lucky break maybe. So if the one you are looking at needs an engine overhaul and probably new rear tires I think that price would be all its worth. Just my experience.

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carvel minne farmer

01-08-2018 17:18:40




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 Re: MM G1000 Wheatland LPG in reply to MinniMan, 12-29-2017 21:23:14  
good evening minniman, john here just cruising through kiji alberta farm equip. found a mm G1000 diesel, add says needs motor work the add # is1297577009 seller asking $1500.00 what are these tracrors going for? has a cab, looks in decent shape.



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MinniMan

01-07-2018 19:53:56




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 Re: MM G1000 Wheatland LPG in reply to MinniMan, 12-29-2017 21:23:14  
Well you gentlemen have taught me a lesson about LPG spark plugs before I even got started on my project.

Yes you are right 1923 Gleaner, with that big muffler on the 504 engine and pulling under load they have a sound all their own.
Thanks for the advice as always.



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1923 Gleaner

01-07-2018 18:53:35




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 Re: MM G1000 Wheatland LPG in reply to MinniMan, 12-29-2017 21:23:14  
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When I started reading this thread and saw the comment on stuck spark plugs I planned to reply. Then I came upon your post and this is the very same advice I would give. I have learned after a lifetime of running Minnie LP tractors this is the most effective way to remove spark plugs that have not had anti-seize used on them. A man's first thought is that the impact wrench would twist them off and the ratchet and socket would be easy pressure----wrong. You need the hammering of the impact. Very, very rarely will you break one off with the above advice.

By the way there is not a better sounding engine in the world than a 504 Minnie on LP under a load.

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MinniMan

12-31-2017 21:08:04




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 Re: MM G1000 Wheatland LPG in reply to MinniMan, 12-29-2017 21:23:14  
Sounds like a good tip. I know those plugs can sure be dry on the threads when they come out. Since mine has been sitting for a number of years it will probably be miserable to get them out. Not going to try anything till the weather moderates a LOT.



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carvel minne farmer

12-31-2017 09:40:10




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 Re: MM G1000 Wheatland LPG in reply to MinniMan, 12-29-2017 21:23:14  
good morning 1206, one trick I use on frozen plugs is to give them a good soak of fluid film and leave it for a few days to penetrate, I then use a 3/8" impact to rattle and vibrate the plugs, then step it up to my 1/2" impact, making sure I keep the socket square to the plug and just give the impact trigger short blips, pull the trigger, let go, and keep doing that and they usually start rotating out. when ever iv'e tried using a big ratchet and socket I will usually break at least one plug or more. my breakage rate has gone way down using the impacts with short fast hits on the trigger. just take your time, make sure your impact and socket are square to the plug. and every once in a while you'll even get a plug start walking out with the 3/8" impact.

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carvel minne farmer

12-31-2017 08:29:14




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 Re: MM G1000 Wheatland LPG in reply to MinniMan, 12-29-2017 21:23:14  
nice looking fleet minneman, I really like the g-1000 hooked to the cultivator, like you I bought a 40 x 64 pole shed from out locale u.f.a. in 2004, they put them on sale every spring, I paid $14,500. for mine and it was another $8000. for the crew to come out and put it up. it took me another 5 years working nights and weekends to get it finished, cement floor, wiring, plumbing, insulation, and metal sheeting inside. all in I probably have very close to $100,000. and that's with me doing most of the work. but worth every dime.

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MinniMan

12-30-2017 21:26:20




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 Re: MM G1000 Wheatland LPG in reply to MinniMan, 12-29-2017 21:23:14  
Well I don't have the luxury of a warm heated shop yet hence having to wait for warm spring days to play outside with my Minnie. However it is in the works. My son and I are converting a machine shed into a heated work shop 30'X60'x14' and it takes a lot of $'s but is well under way and hopefully will be completed by next winter. We like to pay as we go so takes longer.

Not having a heated shop is why it took me a long time to finish the White 2-105 but it performed well on his baler this fall so we're both happy.



He has a G1000 yellow belly diesel tucked away in the other shed which is his pride and joy. A play toy for summer tractor pulls and just joy riding on nice days.



My G1000 sitting in the weeds last summer. Sorry forgot to turn my cell sideways when I took those pics so they're 1/4 turn off.



Our 2-105 together and its first trip out of the shop.

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carvel minne farmer

12-30-2017 17:31:34




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 Re: MM G1000 Wheatland LPG in reply to MinniMan, 12-29-2017 21:23:14  
yes was -34 here yesterday with a minus 45 windchill yesterday, welcome to global warming minniman :lol: all the best in 2018 your way in sw Manitoba, hopefully it warms up soon wer'e forcast to warm up next week, hopefully get my m5 in the shop and start the long list of repairs and upgrades. worked on my ih-100 mower today, body work straightening bent tin pto shield sanded down and primed. like gb. said a warm heated shop the only place to be on a -40 day!

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MinniMan

12-30-2017 17:05:07




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 Re: MM G1000 Wheatland LPG in reply to MinniMan, 12-29-2017 21:23:14  
I'm SW MB. It was -39 here this am with a -49 Wind Chill. Supposed to be the same here again tonight. Shame you are missing winter up your way Carvel minne farmer. hahaha



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carvel minne farmer

12-30-2017 15:38:58




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 Re: MM G1000 Wheatland LPG in reply to MinniMan, 12-29-2017 21:23:14  
where are you located minneman, it's only -30 here this morning, Miami beach t shirt weather :lol: NOT I'm in carvel west of Edmonton.



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MinniMan

12-30-2017 15:15:44




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 Re: MM G1000 Wheatland LPG in reply to MinniMan, 12-29-2017 21:23:14  
Thanks GB. Yes I well remember the plugs would appear very dry on the threads when I used to pull them. We had a M670 and this G1000 both LPG tractors over the years. So I'm sure the regulator will need cleaning if not a kit having sat for so long. But I will try to do as little tear down as possible as it was a running engine when I quite using it.
May also pour ATF in the manifold for the valves as well since they could be seized up too.

Sent you a text but not sure if you have the same number or not asking about the LPG you were having troubles getting to start for ya.

Happy New Year.

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molinegb

12-30-2017 15:25:08




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 Re: MM G1000 Wheatland LPG in reply to MinniMan, 12-30-2017 15:15:44  
Lp on 670 not creating vacuum to open diaphram according to what I was reading. Don't text. Nice day to be working on it! Too cold to do anything.



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MinniMan

12-30-2017 14:57:06




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 Re: MM G1000 Wheatland LPG in reply to MinniMan, 12-29-2017 21:23:14  
Well you guys were all it took to twist my arm. My heart was leaning towards hearing that bark she used to make when you opened the throttle.

So now just have to be patient till this -40 weather leaves. I'll give her a drink of ATF once the weather improves and leave her sit till spring. Could be 4-5 months in this part of the world.

Thanks guys I'll keep you posted.

Happy New Year to all on the form and all the best for 2018.

MinniMan

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molinegb

12-30-2017 15:05:48




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 Re: MM G1000 Wheatland LPG in reply to MinniMan, 12-30-2017 14:57:06  
Had a 66 g1000 lp like you have. Motor ran real well but ring and pinion were bad. Have little experience with Lp's. Had couple U302's that were stuck. Only took couple of days to unstick. Thinking it is some kind of residue from the propane. Spark plugs can really seize in LP motors so be careful removing them. Was advised to use anti seize on threads by a mechanic.



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1206SWMO

12-31-2017 07:12:38




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 Re: MM G1000 Wheatland LPG in reply to molinegb, 12-30-2017 15:05:48  
I just bought a G-705 MM LP burner and believe me the spark plugs are frozen in it..



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carvel minne farmer

12-30-2017 09:03:18




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 Re: MM G1000 Wheatland LPG in reply to MinniMan, 12-29-2017 21:23:14  
just dawned on me no injectors on a lgp model :oops: just pull the plugs minneman and give that a try.



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carvel minne farmer

12-30-2017 09:00:49




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 Re: MM G1000 Wheatland LPG in reply to MinniMan, 12-29-2017 21:23:14  
my vote is save it minneman, one trick you might want to try before tearing the engine down is to pull the injectors and pour as much type a atf. in each cylinder as you can get in, reinstall the injectors and just let that sit and work on the rings pistons etc. the longer you leave it the better. I picked up 2 mm m-5's this summer and went out 4 weeks before we started them and poured a quart or more in each cylinder and just let it soak, the tractor had been sitting in the poplar trees for 15 years without running. after putting in fresh fuel, new battery, new wiring, new fuel line and filter we pulled out the plugs and spun it over no problem with the plugs out and holding a big rag over the plug holes very little oil came out, reinstalled plugs, switch on hit the starter and it was running on the first revalution. give that trick a try minneman.

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1206SWMO

12-30-2017 06:18:35




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 Re: MM G1000 Wheatland LPG in reply to MinniMan, 12-29-2017 21:23:14  
Go for it...Welters Farm Supply at Verona,MO will have everything that you need and they ship world wide..



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jr1983

12-30-2017 03:29:53




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 Re: MM G1000 Wheatland LPG in reply to MinniMan, 12-29-2017 21:23:14  
It's really up to you. If you want to do if who really cares what anyone else thinks. If all that was at a show was really rare ones how big a show would we have? My grandpa's g900 was stuck. If it hadn't had 10000 hours on it before hand i could have got by with rings. It was .020 over. The blocks were .060 at least. Three used jugs and a ring set later it runs great. As with any restoration you will have more in it than its worth.

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