G1000 Colors

fyn409

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Our G1000 LP is a 1965 according to the serial number (0057). I see some out there that the tin work, engine, and frame are all yellow and I see others that the tin works is yellow but the rest is brown. What determines what is original? Was there a serial number that they switched from one to the other? I see some brown and some yellow under ours so I am trying to figure out what is "correct".

Thanks,
Ryan
 
I've heard a lot of people say no two MMs were painted the same, think they just kinda painted them the way they wanted either way would
probably be correct some have yellow frames and some are brown, think most that early are brown but I'm sure some could of been yellow
also.
 
Here is a picture of ours, all yellow currently, but there are flecks of brown under some of the yellow. Yet other spots we still see yellow underneath. I personally prefer the all yellow, but do not mind the brown either.

-Ryan
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I think that they always look nicer in all yellow but I'm sure that since it was made that early it was probably brown and yellow once. It looks just like all of the G-900s did now. Why don't you take another picture of the tractor from a different angle and lets see some more of that Cab Over hauler pulling the trailer, it looks like about a 50 Chevy or somewhere in there. I have an original 48 that I'd love to re-do like that someday to take my MMs around with. What's under the cab?
 

Yea I agree I prefer them all yellow but that could be because I grew up on a G900 and those were all yellow.

As for the truck, I attached a couple of pictures, one as we were buttoning up the engine work, and a second on the way home from it's first show.

It's a 53 International L-185. We took the cab off and grafted it onto a 2002 Ford E-350 chassis. So now it is powered by a 7.4L powerstroke (BTW that is an International engine). It has all the modern drive train including 4 wheel disk brakes, power steering, ABS, etc. It also makes it much easier to find parts for. We have a 1929 30/40 Y Rumely Oill Pull that we build the truck to haul to shows. Now it helps haul the G1000 around as well!

Currently the fenders are in primer and we have some more body work to do on the cab. It has just been so handy and fun we have not torn it back down to finish the body work yet.

-Ryan
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All 1965 and 1966 production were brown belly. Your's is the 7th unit built with the new style sheet metal. The first
50 propane models (and first 100 diesels) had styling like the M602/G705 without the white band the whole length of the
hood. These were a pilot run to get the new model into the fields for farmer evaluation in the spring of 1965. Full
production started in the fall of 1965 with revised styling like your tractor. If you're going to repaint it I vote to
paint it the proper colors but its your tractor you can do what you want.
 
I owned that tractor in the late 70's to mid 80's, traded in on a used 2-150. The guy who bought it from the dealer I traded it to (and worked for at the time) said he was going to hook it to his dryer pig and run his dryer with it. I'll dig and see if I have an old picture. The guy I'd bought it from, had bought it from the original owner down south someplace and he'd bought tractor, duals, and 500 gallon LP pig as a package. I didn't get the duals, but we are still using the pig. We never painted it, and the paint was fairly poor when we traded it in. 18.4x38 rice&canes would do 25+ down the road but you didn't dare do it much as it steered like it was drunk.
 
While I prefer the yellow I would rather put it back to original when we paint it and that is why I started this thread. Again we see some yellow and some brown underneath the current paint. We have not tried to strip any paint and see what is on top of the bare metal as we are not ready to re-paint it yet.

Thanks for the info, it looks like Brown belly it is!

-Ryan
 
IanC,
That would be great if you have some pictures! Would also love to get more history of the tractor. Our plans for her now are an easy retirement. Eventually restore her and bring her to shows and maybe use her in a few plow days, etc.

The gentlemen we bought the tractor from I believe said he bought it from a dealer in Fountain, MI. He said he has owned it about 25 years. Would that be the same dealership you are referring to?

Would love to connect and discuss this some more sometime.

-Ryan
 
The dealership we traded it to was R.E. Peckens in Cohoctah MI, about 35 miles S.& W. of Flint. They opened in 1896, took on Oliver in the very late 1920's, and closed in 1993. I was parts manager from 1984 to 1991. If I recall the guy who bought the G1000 was from up in the thumb someplace.
 
Thanks for posting the truck pictures too. I know it may be off subject some but most of us like to see where someone is using their skills to bring something old back to life in whatever shape it may take. When you pull the G-1000 with it they will compliment each other.
In reply to the other post on here about those very early G-1000s without the white going all the way along the hood and all, you don't see many of those ever and I was told from our old MM dealer in Eastern ND at the time that the factory had recalled all of the early ones that he had out and the truck driver for the dealership said he hauled several back to Hopkins himself to be melted down for scrap and the company had given the buyers new models. Said they hadn't made the rear ends heavy enough or something was weak in them and they wanted them out of the way. Has anyone ever heard that story too?
 
Thanks for posting the truck pictures too.(reply to post at 23:58:12 04/03/15)
No problem, I love to talk old iron as well. The reason we built that truck was to use to haul our tractors to shows. We wanted something "vintage" to haul with. It gets a lot of looks especially with an old tractor out back.

I am anxious to hear what other say about the early models as well. If they did get melted down that might explain why you do not see them around. I have only seen a picture of 1. While 150 of them are not many, I would expect to hear of more if they were still around. Our 30/50 Oil Pull is 1 of 125 and I know of 3 of them "near" us.

-Ryan
 
Pretty sure the low band G1000's were not melted down. I know of a place that has 7 of them. There quite a few collectors that also have them. We have 5 G1000 row crops, but none are the low bands. It can be assumed that the rear end was a weak link on the early G1000's. A transmission cooler was added on the later models.
 
I bought a MM Super U302 from a guy that bought 2 of them new, He was 1/4 mile from the dealership so he was a total MM guy (he had 9 of them). Now the funny thing was both the 302's were bought in the same year one in June and one in September one was a brown belly and the other was yellow and both had the same sheet metal right down to the White decal on the grill. Like others have said I don't think they painted 2 tractors alike. Bandit
 
Hadn't heard that story before. It is plausible if some of those early units were having a lot of problems. I'm sure the company wanted to keep their customer happy. I know a lot of them are still out there relatively speaking. I know of several including a diesel and LP in our collection. There are a lot of unique parts to those early units including all the sheet metal and the crankcase.

Brian
 
I hadn't heard that either but I did hear that there were problems with the rear ends on them. I remember talking to a gentleman several years ago that worked in the plant. He had said they knew they weren't heavy enough but he said the guy behind the desk made the decision to send them out anyway. I have seen several of the low band G1000s in the last few years. I do believe there was some literature on them as well. Here is one that was for sale on the internet.
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Well, did some more work on the G1000 this week. Got some wiring issues sorted out. Also did some more cleaning.

I will have to say this was a brown belly tractor originally. Found some areas that were caked with grease and once that was cleaned off there was the original brown paint. Also found some nooks and crannies under neath that are still wearing the original brown.

So once we get the mechanicals done and then move on to the painting brown engine/drive train it will be again.

Thanks for the help.

Another G1000 question. The service manual mentions a transmission filter. It shows a picture of it but it looks like the picture is of a vista. Where is the transmission filter on the regular G1000?

-Ryan
 

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