I am looking at a G 1355 with a very tired engine. It's a diesel. So clue me in on the Good, Bad, and Ugly on this tractor. I know moline engines and tractors for I have a few but not this engine or tractor. Is it worth buying and fixing it or just stay away? Thanks for the help!
 
How much do they want, does it have an internal or external pump? What's wrong with motor, no oil pressure? Or just a lot of blow by? Does it have cab or fenders, the back half is same as a 2255 and is very tough, any weights on it, how are tires. If it were me I'd buy if cheap I really like them, a picture of it would be nice to tell what it's worth. If it has a good block I wouldn't be scared. I'd say its worth 2000 in very very poor shape. Because the motor block would be worth decent money especially if it has the external pump.

If your not interested in it, I'd like another one but I don't know where your located.
 
The 585 can be a great engine. Some gave problems before the external oil pumps were put on. Most of the parts are unique to this engine, so you can't do the normal MM swapping. My grandfather bought a new Oliver 2255 in 1974. They worked on the transmission 8 times in 7 years. This G1355 has the same Oliver rearend. $2000 would be a good deal for an unrunning tractor. Spending more, you would need to consider the other factors mentioned before. They have gotten to be collectible tractors, but I would not plan to pull it too hard.
 
A little more info, said they used it until the motor was just totally not usable, then parked it. He mentioned it may have a bad injector or stuck valve or something on that order. Tires are mismatched 20.8x38, but about junk. Fronts are about the same, all hold air. Has a cab with some glass missing, sheet metal is good, no weights I don't even think there is a front bracket for them. I guess I would consider this a total restoration project. Just curious about the over-under-direct transmission. We're they any good? He said it worked fine when parked but heard that before. Getting close to retirement (few years yet)and thought this might be a good project.
 
They are a great tractor. I have 3 diesel's and two LP 1355's. The one thing I would caution you about is when overhauling the 585 diesel make sure you give PLENTY of skirt clearance. Those big pistons like to grow warming up and a tight fit will result in gaulding every time. The over/under is a good little unite. Their fault was the 25 cent Oring that kept the 3 pints of light oil seperate from the rearend. Several times over my lifetime I have split a tractor to replace that little Oring.

But if you can buy it for under $2,000 I'd say go for it. They are the nicest riding tractor I have ever run in the field.
 
If it is reasonable in price I would grab it. A few years down the road there will be a few left that collectors have yet but that will be it. They aren't making any more of them, and the last models after 1970 were even scarcer yet. The over/under I think was a very decent power shift back then. It was durable enough to outlast a lot of the competition. Oliver used that design and then White did for over 25 years total.
 
I'd like to see pictures, over under is a really nice partial power shift. Makes s nice gear selection with three speed in each gear.I just restored one this last summer and have used it to plow worked good, pulls really good. What does he want for it. I'd say buy it. Here's what it could look like when done
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I would stay away. The Oliver rear is very good from what I know but that engine can be a real money pit. Then if you don't rebuild it right you can be right back where you were. If you want a collector and money doesn't matter, that is one thing, they are a neat tractor. If you want cheap usable horse power, I would buy something that is in better shape.
 
Alan, I will see if I have any I can post. I have 2 R's, ZA
LP, ZA, 2ZAS, 3UB, UBED, 2ZB, ZBE, Z, ZASI, GVI, G707, UTS, M5 Diesel,and a couple of Z and R parts tractors. Hope I didn't forget any.
 
That looks like a sweet ride. Very nice job on the restoration. Now You have me drooling over it and may have to give in to the temptation to buy it. You wouldn't happen to know the weight of it?
 
15,800 when fender tanks are empty, is over 16000 when full of fuel, if I get six more suitcase weights and put on my big cadt cone duals, should be around 19000
 
Here are the last two I bought.
The G 707, and the GVI. GVI came out of Canada and is original except 1 front tire. 2940 hours on working tach.
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I've enjoyed mine. Soon I will need to split mine to replace that little O-ring (and the clutch). They are all expensive to work on (my experience anyway). I have more in my gas 670 than a rebuild on my diesel including pump and injectors. On another subject, my son pointed out that me and Santa and my 670 are the cover photo on the Minneapolis Moline fan page on Facebook. Feeling pretty honored!
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It seems like most everything is expensive any more. Nice looking tractor. Did you restore the cab interior? If so can you post some pictures? I have one of those style cabs for my 950 to redo.
 
That is interesting. I agree on the piston skirt clearance. We sold a man a new 2-150 and the one piston galled in 25 hours and they were at maximum clearance. Engineering said to up it two or three thousands. On the 2255 rear end we sold probably 10 of the 2255 tractors both 2 & 4 wheel drive and never worked on any of them. A friend of mine has a green G-1355.
 
I don't have any good pictures of the interior...I didn't do the best job either. I was happy with the kit I bought. I was fortunate that my headliner was in good shape, so I used the headliner out of the kit to cover under the seat. I think it really helped to deaden the sound. I also had the overhead panel covered which helped avoid head bumps. I had the hydraulic, Pto, and heater control decals made also.
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