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neverfear

05-06-2013 17:33:49
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Thanks Alan, I looked in the service manual for both tractors and didn't see anything. Was there a separate manual for the cultivators
maybe it would be in there?




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Alan K

05-06-2013 17:44:00
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 Re: Need a Moline guru here in reply to neverfear, 05-06-2013 17:33:49  
There is a separate manual for the cultivators which I think was mainly assembly and parts. Ill see if I can get a picture for you from somewhere. I think I still have one of those manuals.



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neverfear

05-06-2013 18:18:33
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 Re: Need a Moline guru here in reply to Alan K, 05-06-2013 17:44:00  
LOL well yours is the best pic I've seen yet! I did the google search for images and came up with nothing that showed the cylinder side of the tractor. I'll trust your advice on it as you have a complete set of cultivators on yours and it worked for you. The reason this came up is I think I have a problem with a relief valve then if it's not my hose hookup. I can retract the cylinder (push up on the handle), and when it reaches end of travel it kicks the lever to neutral as I would expect. When I extend the cylinder (pull back on the handle) it travels to the end and deadheads, pulling the engine down and will not release. The only way to release it is to kill the engine to relieve the pressure then I can move the handle to neutral. I know this post is going off track now but maybe others are reading it. Thanks again Alan for the pic and advice.

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Alan K

05-06-2013 19:44:53
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 Re: Need a Moline guru here in reply to neverfear, 05-06-2013 18:18:33  
Generally I think, think when that happens it might be some wear on the cam in the hydraulic reseroir with the valves that is going slighly over center and not letting it release back to neutral. Had that happen on dads once and he ended up taking the reservoir apart to release it. Does it do it when you dont have it mounted on the lifting roll? Possibly might be some binding in the lifting roll / linkage? I think if it goes all the way to the end of the stroke the lever might bind on the lifting roll as it is all the way back and would be stuck in that position and cant release back to neutral.

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Alan K

05-06-2013 20:16:26
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 Re: Need a Moline guru here in reply to Alan K, 05-06-2013 19:44:53  

Here is a picture from the implement book I was talking about, dated 3-49. The more I think about yours Im guessing it is binding on the lifting roll when it completes the full stroke. I would try moving the lever to a lighter setting on the quadrant and see if that helps, which would only be probably half way on the stroke of the cylinder. When the hydraulic cylinder goes the full stroke on the lifting roll, the lever and linkage tilts slightly to the back and I dont think allows it to release. (for some reason I have two pictures of the same thing so you arent seeing double lol)

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Alan K

05-07-2013 05:57:21
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 Re: Need a Moline guru here in reply to Alan K, 05-06-2013 20:16:26  
Looked in the operation and maintenance manual on the Uni-matic lift. There is an adjustment on the linkage or rod that goes from the lever to the hydraulic reservoir. It is by the clevis on the reservior. You may need to adjust that shorter / longer to get the correct setting. I can post a picture later.



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