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mightymolinekid

09-10-2012 15:48:31
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In reply to MMUBMM...nobody has been arguing that point. It's been said, if you read all the posts, that a big cube gas engine is the biggest bang for your buck and that a diesel will cost more to build for "roughly" the same power. It's apparent that you are an avid MM diesel hater all the way. YES they are harder to get good power out of. The key is unlocking their potential,they are a different animal all together, and nothing you would do to set up any other color diesel will work. You want something different that's fun to pull? Try a big cube MM diesel. What does it take to be competitive in a 4 MPH class, keeping up with 600 cube John Deere G's and 420 cube farmalls? There's a 4 banger UB diesel running around Eastern WI that's doing it. Yep, it's mine. A big cube gasser would be better power and less work, but not near as much fun. Oh look everyone, there's a Moline...I bet it's big cubes like everyone else...yep big deal just another big MM...hey wait a minute...that's a diesel, let's go take a look. I have more fun talking about my tractor with the people before and after the pull than I would carrying around a 1st place trophy. You want a shelf full of 1st place trophies? Build a big cube MM gasser. You want a cell phone contact list full of new friends that think your tractor is pretty damn cool? Build something different. I can't sit and drink beers and talk foolish with my trophies...but if you can, you have fun with that, I'll be over here tweaking on my damn Moline diesel...

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MMUBMM

09-10-2012 18:09:51
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 Re: big cube diesels in reply to mightymolinekid, 09-10-2012 15:48:31  
I said that a gas or LP will be cheeper to build than a diesel. Where do you get that I hate diesels? When did I say that something different, like a diesel, was bad? You want him to build a diesel but then a gasser comes along and beats him.Is that good advice?



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mightymolinekid

09-11-2012 06:05:33
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 Re: big cube diesels in reply to MMUBMM, 09-10-2012 18:09:51  
I apologize for being accusatory, you did not say those things. What lit my fire was the first comment, "you'll spend twice as much for half the power" that statement is not true. I was not arguing against your main point however. Re-read my posts, I agreed 100% that gas or LP would have more HP per dollar spent, and would be a lot easier to do. You ask if my advice to build a diesel is good advice when he will get beat by a gas engine. My question then is, since the class I run is dominated by a big cube Farmall M, should we all build one of those? My advice was an encouragement to be different, and I said if the guy wants 1st place trophies, build a big cube MM gas or LP, build a big cube Farmall M, build a glider out of bed sheets and popsicle sticks and sail off over the grand canyon, whatever he wants to do. There has been quite a bit of discussion on diesels lately, and the negative talk has gotten to me I guess. I apologize for ranting...I just hate to see guys scared off from doing something different by negative comments and false information. And NO I'm not accusing anyone of those things but what I've found in building my big cube diesel, is the lack of honest answers by certain people who are supposed to be "in the know".

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