Red MM 1350

Anonymous-0

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was working on the hyd of my 1350 today and discovered red paint under the hood, then went around and scratched some more and found it under the yellow in various places. Is there a list anywhere that shows which 1350's were originally red Plainsman tractors ? It is a flat nose but there again I have no way of knowing if that is original either
 
All Plainsman were A4T1600's. The red/white/blue were Heritage models. They were never separated from other gold ones.
 
Schrocky,
The MM serial number ledgers break out which G1350 were built as Oliver 2155 but they do not break out which ones were red vs. yellow.

I'm not sure on this but weren't there 2 red color schemes? One was red/white/blue with stars on the fenders and one was just red/white/black.

Brian
 
I will add one thing. The first advertising brohure on the 1350 shows the tractor in red. The later brochure on the same tractor shows the tractor painted yellow.
 
As long as you guys are talking colors, were any A4t's sold as yellow and white tractors. I have seen pictures of some, and they look good in that color, just wondering if any rolled off the line that color? One of Dads A4ts has yellow paint where the red has worn off by the steps, got me thinking maybe they painted some of them gold off the line.
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Here is a copy of some lit that was for sale on ebay. I dont quite follow what the deal was on it. It lists it as a G1350 yet looks like a G1355. Must have been when they were just coming out with the G1355s. I often wonder if White was expirimenting with different colors in the MM line to see if the tractors would sell better being another color. They just seem like they are missing something if the arent yellow.
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Alan, I think you will find that brochure was printed in Canada, probably in 1972 or 73. The U.S. beochure was printed in 1970.
 
I wondered about that. Werent all the canadian models (mostly Cockshutt and White) painted red? I have seen what looks to be factory pictures of yellow MM A4Ts so Im betting they were atleast made at one time, unless they started out in that color as the tractor parts they used were from yellow tractors. Does anyone have a picture of the 1970 brochure? Is that the one where it is show in heritage colors?
 
The 1350 pictured had same paint scheme as 2270 White(1355)with black pinstriping. The heritage ones had blue pinstriping as well as stars.
 
When came home from the service in Sept 1971, the dealer that I had worked for when I was in high school (who also ran a dairy farm) had an almost new G1050 Diesel that was painted red/white/black. A few years later 2 of the sons and I were at Welters in MO & they had a 1350 LP that was painted the same way. Both of them had the bubble nose on them.

I bought the engine from a red/white/blue A4T1600 & got the hood, radiator & grille with it. It also has the bubble nose.

Welters also had an Oliver 2155 LP with an 800 LP engine in it that had a flat front the same as my 2155 diesel that I bought about a year before.

My 2155 has yellow paint under the green on some of the parts such as the fenders, platform & lift arms. The hood doesn't appear to have ever been yellow.
 
yes, they were painted yellow in a limitted or on asking basis. two lp's here in kansas were painted yellow that I know of. the farmer spec'ed them that way. one had a HD800 and the other the 504
 
You 100% sure on that ? We sold 2 very early A4T1400 tractors (504 with M & W turbo) We also had some literature at that time that showed the Plainsman but not with 585 engines as none had been built at that time yet. Also at least around here not every dealer had a contract to sell the A4T models. The next one to us was also an Oliver dealer same as we were.
 
Schrocky,
There's a document in Charles City that records the planned tractor production at Lake St plant for 1971. This was a plan not actual as its dated Feb 1971. From Feb to April of 1971 it lists a change to a new style grill and straddle mount 3pt for A4T and all 50 series production. Based on this most all 1971 production should have been flat grills but our 1971 G950 is a bubble nose and it was built 6/2/71. I suspect it was actually later in the 1971 production year when the actual dealer order code was bumped one digit from a 137731 to a 137732 model. This change to 137732 happened in Sept 1971 when the next batch of G950 were produced. The same holds true for the G1050, G1350 and A4T I believe.

Brian
 
I just got my G1350 home today. It has the flat nose on it and it is a "72 model. Also, I noticed that it has fuel tanks mounted in the fenders.(It has the Factory cab option). On a side note, inside the cab it has the blower assembly and there is provisions there for air conditioning.....is it still possible to source the necessary components to have a/c in this tractor? Thanks!
 
All Late G-series tractors were offered and sold as Yellow, Green and Red. not all Plainsmans were 1600's, some were 1400's.

The Literature shown above is a G1350, not a 1355.

The Red was offered in both heritage, and plain Red/White.
the 1st A4T (1400) was LP and Yellow, all after were Red, or Oliver Green, with a few exceptions of special orders, from what I've researched, less than 2 dozen factory yellow A4T's.

There are even Red Oliver 2655's! and Green MM G1355's. This is one of the most fascinating parts of MM history to research. White was doing too many things at once, and therefore there are oodles of variations.


The Bubble nose is older than the flat grill, which was a rolling change in Mid 1971.
 

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