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MF 135 Transmission Oil Type

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Teresa W.

03-04-2007 17:24:06
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Hello again. I posted awhile back about the correct age of our tractor. We have it home now and have been going through it. I do have the engine number now, it's Z145 22469 and serial number is 9A 50515. Generated. Could it possibly be a deluxe model? I ordered a MF manual but it does not tell what type of oil to use in the transmission, differential and hydraulics. We know it takes 8 gallons but want to be sure of the correct type. Also, is 30 wt. the correct engine oil? Is there a more detailed service manual out there for this? The one we have is IMT shop service manual. Any help would be great. Thank you much. Teresa

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Randyr

03-06-2007 22:54:50
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 Re: MF 135 Transmission Oil Type in reply to Teresa W., 03-04-2007 17:24:06  
Hi Teresa. I"m trying to find out if there is a difference between the z134 and z145 blocks externally, to see if they could be interchanged. I need to find out out what the measurement is from the top deck of the block, where the head bolts on, and the bottom edge where the oil pan bolts on. Or the total engine height from the top of the valve cover to the bottom of the pan. Could you take a measurement on your 145 and let me know? I"d appreciate it. Thank you.

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Teresa W.

03-07-2007 08:15:20
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 Re: MF 135 Transmission Oil Type in reply to Randyr, 03-06-2007 22:54:50  
Hi Randy. Here are the measurement's you asked for. From the top of the block to the pan it is 14". Front of block mount to bell housing is 19". Hope this helps! Teresa



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Randyr

03-07-2007 22:50:22
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 Re: MF 135 Transmission Oil Type in reply to Teresa W., 03-07-2007 08:15:20  
Thanks Teresa. I have posted asking for this before but to no avail. You are the only one to actually take a measurement. I can't do it since I don't have a 145 block to check for myself.
I'm trying to see if a 134 and 145 block are actually the same size. My thinking is that since the 2 engines share the same size bearings, and there are rebuild kits to give the 134 the bigger bore of a 145, all that would be needed is the longer stroke of the 145, and my MF35 could take quite a leap in power output.

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Teresa W.

03-08-2007 06:09:33
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 Re: MF 135 Transmission Oil Type in reply to Randyr, 03-07-2007 22:50:22  
Randy~My husband seems to think the 134 and the 145 are the same size blocks externally. He thinks the difference is internal with the 145 having the larger bore size and stroke. You should be able to do what you are wanting to do with it. You will be gaining 1 horse power. Glad to be of some help. If you need any other measurements or anything, just let me know. Good luck. Teresa



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Randyr

03-08-2007 18:36:33
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 Re: MF 135 Transmission Oil Type in reply to Teresa W., 03-08-2007 06:09:33  
One horsepower. I've never seen any power ratings for the 145. I know the 134 is 34 horepower. The rebuild kits for the 134 will give the bigger bore of the 145 and turn it into a 138 cubic inch engine.
Sounds like that's the way to go and forget the longer stroke if 1 horse is all it gains. I will research this some more. Thanks for the help.



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Teresa W.

03-08-2007 19:59:32
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 Re: MF 135 Transmission Oil Type in reply to Randyr, 03-08-2007 18:36:33  
Randy~The 134 is 34.5 horsepower and the 145 deluxe is 35.4 horsepower at the PTO shaft according to Nebraska tests in the IT MF shop manual. Teresa



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Gerald J.

03-04-2007 20:15:16
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 Re: MF 135 Transmission Oil Type in reply to Teresa W., 03-04-2007 17:24:06  
Z145 would indicate a Deluxe model. The special had Z134 and very few instruments. Generally a pan seat.

My book calls for (on page 25) MF oil specification M-1129 or M-1129A. For sure NOT 90W. Its also doing the hydraulic oil function. I've used Coop Super HTP and right now it has oil from a country Walmart that claims to meet the HF specification.

In 1968, multigrade oils were very new and not always great. Today I run 10W30 in my MF-135 about 2000 SN from yours. I have for 18 years so far. It doesn't run enough in a year to need changing for the seasons. So 10W30 takes care of that.

Gerald J.

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mike a. tenn.

03-04-2007 17:36:37
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 Re: MF 135 Transmission Oil Type in reply to Teresa W., 03-04-2007 17:24:06  
teresa...looks to me like your 135 is a 1968 model. i'm sure the 135's take SAE 90 straight mineral oil in the gearbox. you should be able to get it at your local MF AGCO dealer as M1103 SAE-90, or i believe NAPA sells it under GL1-SAE90. i use a multi-grade oil in my to-35, usually 10w40 in summer as it gets pretty hot down here, but the manual i have calls for 30 weight.

-mike



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John Man

03-04-2007 20:24:55
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 Re: MF 135 Transmission Oil Type in reply to mike a. tenn., 03-04-2007 17:36:37  
Mike the M1103 SAE 90 is more suited to the pre-100 series tractors. MF recommends Perm-A-Tran 3 or any good Trans/Hyd/Diff oil meeting M1129A specs. Teresa the 10w40 engine oil would be fine for your climate. Genuine MF manuals can be had from your dealer.
John.



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mike a. tenn.

03-05-2007 06:03:48
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 Re: MF 135 Transmission Oil Type in reply to John Man, 03-04-2007 20:24:55  
sorry teresa, i was going by what i use in my 35. oh and...i got some of my manuals from my MF dealer like john said. i have both the service and the owner's manuals. i like the owners manual when i'm looking up specs. capacities and operatring questions as it's smaller and is easier to find things in. thanks for catching that and setting me straight john, next time i better double check my answer.

-mike

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Teresa W.

03-05-2007 05:52:54
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 Re: MF 135 Transmission Oil Type in reply to John Man, 03-04-2007 20:24:55  
Thank you , guys! I really appreciate all your help and information. Teresa



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Teresa W.

03-04-2007 18:32:10
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 Re: MF 135 Transmission Oil Type in reply to mike a. tenn., 03-04-2007 17:36:37  
Mike~Thank you for the info. Very much appreciated!!It doesn't get very hot out here on the Oregon coast, so I think 30 wt. will work fine. This tractor has a Kelley & Sons loader attached, also. What manual do you have? I would like one more detailed. Thanks again, Teresa.



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