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MF 65 PTO seal replacement

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PD Abbott

06-13-2018 06:17:48




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I just finished my spring bush hogging and noticed oil running out from around the PTO... really bad leak.

Can someone give me the run-down on the seal replacement process?

From what I find online, the 20's & 35's come out from the rear. Please tell me the 65 will as well.

I assume it would be wise to replace the bearings while I'm in there.

Any help appreciated.




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ptfarmer

06-14-2018 09:13:10




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 Re: MF 65 PTO seal replacement in reply to PD Abbott, 06-13-2018 06:17:48  
AGCO part number 195498M1 (Bearing, P.T.O. Shaft)



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PD Abbott

06-14-2018 07:34:39




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 Re: MF 65 PTO seal replacement in reply to PD Abbott, 06-13-2018 06:17:48  
Credit pictures to Big Deans


17. Seal 186 0325

19. O-ring 195 522


Anybody have a part# for the bearing #16 ?

Thanks.



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PD Abbott

06-14-2018 07:10:37




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 Re: MF 65 PTO seal replacement in reply to PD Abbott, 06-13-2018 06:17:48  
Wow, thanks for all the help on this. Exactly what I needed.

I really appreciate it.

I guess I'd better get some parts ordered.

I'll keep you posted.



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Bret4207

06-14-2018 06:15:18




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 Re: MF 65 PTO seal replacement in reply to PD Abbott, 06-13-2018 06:17:48  
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Hey Tom, if you've got Big Deans CD, since his family doesn't seem interested in making the CD available, you ought to start making copies or down load it to a website so the rest of the free world can benefit from Deans experience.



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shaeff

06-14-2018 05:38:27




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 Re: MF 65 PTO seal replacement in reply to PD Abbott, 06-13-2018 06:17:48  
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Me too. I think my seal was original from 1964, it didn't leak but I had to remove the hydraulic pump anyway and figured "while I'm in there" and I've got it all removed.

Here's the adapter I made up quick. It's ugly, all I had on hand was a piece of angle iron so I split it down the angle with my plasma cutter, pounded it flat, re-welded it into a plate and quickly cut holes in it. One day, maybe I'll make it pretty. It got the job done in about 5 seconds when I'd been prying and pulling on the PTO shaft for about 30 minutes and it didn't move.

Pro Tip- use a slide hammer! :)





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John Deere D

06-14-2018 08:03:48




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 Re: MF 65 PTO seal replacement in reply to shaeff, 06-14-2018 05:38:27  
Thanks for posting these pictures.......great info:

Bob....Owner MF 35 X & TEA-20



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PD Abbott

06-14-2018 03:55:52




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 Re: MF 65 PTO seal replacement in reply to PD Abbott, 06-13-2018 06:17:48  
After removing everything around the PTO, here's what I'm left with:



The flange around the shaft turns freely, but there it has no front/back play in it at all. The flats on the side prevent it from turning when the bracket is bolted on.

Where do I go from here?



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Tom from Buckeye Lake

06-14-2018 05:11:29




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 Re: MF 65 PTO seal replacement in reply to PD Abbott, 06-14-2018 03:55:52  

I have a 150, should be the same PTO shaft. In the pictures, it shows a small tapered punch in the shaft hole to pull assy out. I had to adapt a slide hammer to remove mine.

Seal 186 0325
O-ring 195 522


Credit pictures to Big Deans

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Tom from Buckeye Lake

06-14-2018 05:56:37




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 Re: MF 65 PTO seal replacement in reply to Tom from Buckeye Lake, 06-14-2018 05:11:29  
I'm old, just remembered :} While I had the shaft out, I replaced the bearing with a sealed type. I took the inside seal lip out so it would get oil. That way it has two seals. So if your shaft has wear at the seal contact point, the sealed bearing will solve the problem.

Sorry, I didn't record the bearing number.



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54FergieTO30

06-13-2018 14:39:41




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I had 2 grooves worn in the area where the seal rides. Was able to use a Speedi-sleeve to cover the worn area before replacing the seal. 2 years later still no drips. Not sure if this helps or not, but someone on this forum made me aware of speedi-sleeves and I have been happy with the result.



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Eric in IL

06-13-2018 08:04:15




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 Re: MF 65 PTO seal replacement in reply to PD Abbott, 06-13-2018 06:17:48  
The oil seal is replaceable from the back. I'm not sure if the bearing is .



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