Looking to buy Massy 165

chas036 · Nov 9, 2017

I am looking for a older, low priced tractor to run a 3 point snow blower, and since the massy 165 has the lowest reverse speed of the older 50's y 60's tractors, and good power rating, I thought that it might be a good tractor for this type of work.

I own John Deere two cylinders , and have no experience with the Massy tractors. In my area , the 165's go relatively cheap like between $2500 to $3500. Is there anything that I should look for or be aware that were common problems on these tractors that would be a red flag for not buying it?

ptfarmer · Nov 9, 2017

They are pretty solid tractors, if it has "multi-power" a high and low range you can shift on the go (it will have a lever on the dash to operate it). If it has multi-power make sure it works, and look at the oil in the planetaries on the rear axle by the rear tires. If they have water, rusty looking oil, or if the axle seals are leaking onto the rear wheels. Those are the only two things that can get expensive to fix.

Dieseltech · Nov 9, 2017

If at all possible I'd look for a 175 diesel instead of the 165. The Perkins 236 engine in the 175 has a balancer that helps make the whole tractor smoother to use than a 165, as it does not have the engine balancer. Both are good tractors though..

Bob N.Y. · Nov 9, 2017

I run a 6 foot 8 inch snow blower with a late model 65 diesel. It is a great combination. The 165 is a newer version of the 65.

Danperkins · Nov 9, 2017

I agree with Diesel Tech. I run a snow blower with my 175 and it will max that tractor out in deep snow. I think the 165 might be a little too small.

Dale39 · Nov 10, 2017

(quoted from post at 20:37:03 11/09/17) If at all possible I'd look for a 175 diesel instead of the 165. The Perkins 236 engine in the 175 has a balancer that helps make the whole tractor smoother to use than a 165, as it does not have the engine balancer. Both are good tractors though..

Hey Dieseltech, does this hold true as well for the 255/265 vs 275?

Dieseltech · Nov 10, 2017

MF early models had the AD4.203 Perkins with NO balancer, late models had the Perkins A4.236 like the 265 has, only max fuel setting was a bit lower. MF 275 has the A4.248, BOTH the 236 and 248 have balancers. 236 is 3 7/8 bore, 248 is 3 15/16 bore, all three engines have a five inch stroke. While I've never tried it, books I've read give the sleeve OD on both the 236 and 248 blocks have the same dimensions. Applies to the 6.354 and 6.372 engines too far as bore sizes go.

FinnMD · Nov 11, 2017

I'd look for a 4 speed with Hi Lo instead of Multi Power tranny 165 due to less potential repairs issues if you are looking for low cost and reliability. Warm it up and check underside for steady oil drips from cotter pins under clutch and tranny. A few drops of oil OK but be wary of more than a few or stream after warmed up. Common to see few drops engine oil. I'd worry if tranny oil. Other things are basic to any tractor, check pto to easily engage and not grind if 2 stage clutch. I would look for working gauges too and tach, check various for oil pressure, alt or gen voltage, temp, etc. Good luck, great tractors, we use a lot.

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