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44 PTO Clutch Question

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drkirk62

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I have a MH 44 with the hand clutch option, a handle on the left side of the operator's station. Does the PTO have to be engaged to drive the tractor forward? With the handle pulled back, the PTO is dis-engaged, but the clutch does not operate and I cannot put the tractor in gear.
 
PTO does not need to be on. Something does not make sense IF the PTO stops with the clutch, but the transmission can't be shifted. Does your tractor have a FOOT clutch pedal? If so THAT is what's used when shifting BOTH the PTO and transmission. The HAND lever by your right foot is a differential disconnect to stop the tractor travel so the PTO keeps running ONLY. That lever is NOT to be used ever for any shifting..
 
(quoted from post at 05:51:09 10/16/17) PTO does not need to be on. Something does not make sense IF the PTO stops with the clutch, but the transmission can't be shifted. Does your tractor have a FOOT clutch pedal? If so THAT is what's used when shifting BOTH the PTO and transmission. The HAND lever by your right foot is a differential disconnect to stop the tractor travel so the PTO keeps running ONLY. That lever is NOT to be used ever for any shifting..
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I'll try to explain better - with hand lever (by left foot, not right) is forward, PTO is engaged and foot clutch works fine, shift lever goes in all gears, tractor moves in all gears. With hand lever back, PTO is dis-engaged and foot clutch will not let shift lever go into any gear (grinding). Of course tractor cannot move as it is not in any gear.
 
Hmm mm...if the lever is on the left side, it is not for the live pto, but rather a
substitute for the foot clutch pedal. It should work just like the foot
clutch....needs to be disengaged to shift any gears and the pto. If it does not do
this, check the adjustment and linkage to see if it is releasing properly. If not,
there a more internal problems I would think.Ben
 
Sounds like it does have a live pto , and if so, it is working properly, as outlined
be diesel tech. Never saw one with the live pto lever on that side, though.....Ben
 
I may have exaggerated by saying near left foot. The lever is just off center of the tractor, slightly on left side. Seems like it dis-engages both PTO and foot clutch, hence my question, can I dis-engage PTO but not foot clutch. Appreciate the responses.
 
That is the short lever that shifts the pto in and out of gear. Has nothing to do
with the forward gears. Foot clutch must be depressed to shift pto in and out of
gear.Ben
 
Got it. But is there any reason why the foot clutch doesn't seem to operate with the PTO lever out? I can only shift into gear when the PTO is engaged. Makes for a difficult time to move around with a mower attached.
 
You got me there.... the clutch assembly is directly behind the engine and not in the
transmission case. The pto drive is completely within the transmission case. Linkages
do not come anywhere close to each other. Might be something inside the transmission
case that is causing binding between the pto drive and the shifter rails. Maybe pull
the top lid off and have a look....simple enough job. Let us know what you find so we
can all learn. Ben
 
I wonder if the clutch is dragging enough
to keep turning the shaft, but when the pto
is engaged, there is enough resistance to
get the input shaft stopped so you can
shift? Could be either a bad pilot
bearing, or a warped clutch disk.
 
Is the mower still spinning when you are trying to shift gears? If so, it is pushing the PTO and still spinning gears in the transmission. Have you tried letting the mower stop before shifting? I use an over-running PTO adapter on my 44 for that reason.

Bob
 
the hand clutch only stop the motion of the tractor must use foot clutch for all gear shifting. your hand clutch might be bolted solid because the clutch disc were slipping. i have looked high and low for clutch disc and can't find any so most guys just pull out the spacers and bolt disc together it will never slip then
 
The hand clutch detaches the right wheel from the differential, thus making the tractor stop if in gear and lever pulled.

The hand clutch has no affect on PTO.

Foot clutch disengages both.
 
Can you post a pic of the lever you are talking about? A pic taken from you sitting in the seat of the clutch and shifters would be great. That would narrow it down as to what kind of clutch and shifter setup is on the tractor for us.

Bob
 
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