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Hello Fellas, I'm new to the site and just purchased a MF 65 and I'm trying to learn more about it. I wasn't able to get much info at time of purchase. Best I can tell from online photos is that it's a early 60's mf65 diesel high row. This is my first MF, using the owners manual I found the engine number #2807113 but haven't found the tractor # yet. Book says right side just ahead of steering, see large bracket/battery tank support with voltage reg but no # or tag.
Injectors are vertical not tilted at all.
38" wheels.
PWR steer.
Has Tach and three other gauges no fuel gauge.
Has the little airplane looking hood ornament.
If anyone could help me ID the year model or how to find tractor # I'd really appreciate it.
I'll try to post some pics in a couple days
Thanks
 
Sounds like it's 1959 or 1960 IF the injectors are not angled, and oil pan has a rear wedge. Later AD4.203 Perkins use angled injectors and no oil pan wedge.
 
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Thanks Dieseltech, does have wedge and injectors are not tilted. Wow getting this narrowed down quick.
 
Thanks ptfarmer, that circle is where I have no gauge, there are four small holes that look like would be used for a surface mount gauge. And the other circle is where I'm looking for number, but there is a bracket bolted on in that location where the voltage regulator mounts. Should number be visible without pulling voltage regulator and bracket?
 
looks just like the one I have except mine is a gas burner and it's a 59. I have a list of serial numbers somewhere if I can find it which identifies the year it was build
 
after thinking about it I believe the 4 small holes is where the serial number tag is mounted on the tractor I have. Not 100% sure and it too late to check tonite
 
(quoted from post at 18:00:18 09/01/17) Thanks ptfarmer, that circle is where I have no gauge, there are four small holes that look like would be used for a surface mount gauge. And the other circle is where I'm looking for number, but there is a bracket bolted on in that location where the voltage regulator mounts. Should number be visible without pulling voltage regulator and bracket?


They have been known to hide those plates behind brackets for regulators, air cleaners, or other things.
 
I have a 58 MK1 English. The data plate is riveted to the dash panel as below. Mine has only four guages, ammeter, engine
temp, oil pressure and tach. No fuel guage. One easy tell if it's a UK is to look at the steering linkage. If the drag link
is attached to the pitman arm with a gooseneck looking arrangement, it's a UK built tractor.

Good tractor.
 
(quoted from post at 18:13:16 09/02/17) the serial number tag on mind is right where the 4 small holes on yours is
Finally took a couple pictures. Tractor doesn't really need much in the way of repairs, the vertical steering shaft in the picture has a lot of play. And can't say the large K&N air filter looks correct for the tractor. Wondering if this tractor had a external air cleaner originally?
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The 65 had a the oil bath type filter up front above the steering, they get neglected, or not taken care of properly, parts of it go missing/lost. Unlike some at least they put a filter on that works, seen too many of the original ones without oil in them, or missing parts, and not even hooked up to a filter at all. The K&N filter that's on it works good (beats not having one at all). The question is do you want it original, or put one of the later model filters on it that has the dual paper elements in it.
 
(quoted from post at 22:36:35 09/03/17) The 65 had a the oil bath type filter up front above the steering, they get neglected, or not taken care of properly, parts of it go missing/lost. Unlike some at least they put a filter on that works, seen too many of the original ones without oil in them, or missing parts, and not even hooked up to a filter at all. The K&N filter that's on it works good (beats not having one at all). The question is do you want it original, or put one of the later model filters on it that has the dual paper elements in it.
I was wondering about what was original because the area in front of radiator is pretty well filled up by pwr steering. above the ram and linkage sets the pwr str reservoir and lines leaving little room for an air cleaner. I agree ptfarmer it's nice that it had and air cleaner. I would prefer to have an original looking filter housing with a paper element. So question is did they still squeeze a filter in front of radiator even with all the pwr steer or was it external and either way what did filter housing look like?
Thanks for responses.
 
Can you post a picture of the inside above the steering without the grill. The original oil bath filter was above all the steering up front.
 
(quoted from post at 13:09:25 09/01/17) Hello Fellas, I'm new to the site and just purchased a MF 65 and I'm trying to learn more about it. I wasn't able to get much info at time of purchase. Best I can tell from online photos is that it's a early 60's mf65 diesel high row. This is my first MF, using the owners manual I found the engine number #2807113 but haven't found the tractor # yet. Book says right side just ahead of steering, see large bracket/battery tank support with voltage reg but no # or tag.
Injectors are vertical not tilted at all.
38" wheels.
PWR steer.
Has Tach and three other gauges no fuel gauge.
Has the little airplane looking hood ornament.
If anyone could help me ID the year model or how to find tractor # I'd really appreciate it.
I'll try to post some pics in a couple days
Thanks

ZP3, it is obviously a US made tractor. So, I am a bit on thin ice here, but on UK built MF 35 and MF 65 you can find a date in the casting above the right footrest. It is supposed to be easy to read, and would say for example 17 1 59. In the UK the date comes before the month, and then the year at the end. But, I have seen these numbers being placed more or less upside down so you have to tilt your head to read it. I have no idea if this was done in the US, but it tells the date of casting of the transmission casing and could give you a fair idea when the tractor was made. At least as long as no one has replaced the transmission.

Bill
 
(quoted from post at 09:09:25 09/04/17) Can you post a picture of the inside above the steering without the grill. The original oil bath filter was above all the steering up front.
Here is a few more pictures and a few observations. It looks like the large round hole in horizontal sheet metal near top of radiator is probably where air cleaners on most models mounted. That's where the pwr str reservoir is mounted on this tractor. I'm assuming that was a mod for pwr str mdls. I can see where there might be enough room on the right side in front of radiator for an air cleaner but if it was there originally I'm a little puzzled by how the intake hose would have been routed. there's not enough room to go beside radiator on right side there might be enough room to go over radiator tank.
And just to restate what I'm looking for is location and appearance of original air cleaner. In all my web searches of 1960 MF 65 I never see and external air cleaner.

Thanks Bill, I'll look for those numbers

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(quoted from post at 12:28:18 09/05/17)
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That is someone's "home brewed" power steering reservoir.
Here is the original air cleaner, it goes through the hole where they mounted the reservoir.
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Here is another way to get the air filter you have under the hood.
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That is someone's "home brewed" power steering reservoir.
Here is the original air cleaner, it goes through the hole where they mounted the reservoir.
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Here is another way to get the air filter you have under the hood.
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ptfarmer, Your last picture showed me a lot, I see a similar steering reservoir mounted behind the radiator, original position I'm assuming. And I can see the intake hose, is that original hose? And original hood support, mine has a cable someone made up. This gives me some options to think about. I think I'll relocate air cleaner similar to picture. Do you know if that hose is still available?
Thanks for this info I really appreciate it.
 

ZP3, the power steering tank between the radiator and the fuel tank is how my UK built MF 65 is, and the tank looks identical. Supposed to be a filter in there.

Bill
 
(quoted from post at 16:05:09 09/05/17) That is someone's "home brewed" power steering reservoir.
Here is the original air cleaner, it goes through the hole where they mounted the reservoir.
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Here is another way to get the air filter you have under the hood.
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ptfarmer, Your last picture showed me a lot, I see a similar steering reservoir mounted behind the radiator, original position I'm assuming. And I can see the intake hose, is that original hose? And original hood support, mine has a cable someone made up. This gives me some options to think about. I think I'll relocate air cleaner similar to picture. Do you know if that hose is still available?
Thanks for this info I really appreciate it.[/quote]ttp://forums.yesterdaystractors.com/viewtopic.php?t=1211394&highlight=air+cleaner[/url]
 
(quoted from post at 19:02:20 09/05/17)
ZP3, the power steering tank between the radiator and the fuel tank is how my UK built MF 65 is, and the tank looks identical. Supposed to be a filter in there.

Bill

Bill didn't find the numbers you spoke of on trans, I've kind of given up on original number plate, probably been gone for many years. Between what dieseltech said about engine number and comments from previous owner I'm pretty sure this is a 1960.

ptfarmers info helped my learning curve. I went through the manuals I got with the tractor this morning and should have done that earlier. Several pictures showing pwr str reservoir loacation, air cleaner and intake hose. In the A4 engine section it shows a rubber intake hose and in the AD4 engine section it shows metal intake pipe with rubber connections. Interesting how the original air cleaner sealed to bottom of hood with air intake right under the hood ornament. At least now I have a better idea of original setups. Still chewing on how I'll modify things to get air cleaner back under the hood.
 

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