MF135/ MF2135 Lift Hydraulics

Reyal

New User
New guy here and I need some help. I purchased a MF135/ MF2135 awhile back and stored it intending to fix some problems later. My tractor implement lift hydraulics was not working so I took the oil dipstick plate off and found there was no lift pump lever in place. I removed the lift cover and found several problems. I have fixed several problems, including removing the lift pump, replacing some roller pin bearings, installing a lift pump control lever (also bought a roller for it), and reinstalling the lift pump. Problem is that the vertical draft and position levers coming down from the lift cover linkages do not line up with the lift pump control lever. So what is wrong? Do I have the wrong lift pump or what? I attached a Picture.
 
Hello,
A picture here would be worth a thousand words. You have mentioned
purchasing a pump control lever and roller. How is the pivot bracket
attached to the pump backplate? On the 100 series there is a 'U'
shaped bracket retained freely by a rivet. The 35/65 and others have
a 1/4" adjusting rod on which the lever pivots. You have also
mentioned that you have a Draft and Position lever coming down from
above. The 100 series tractors only had one lever coming downwards
which acted on the removable roller. The roller on the 35/65 pump is
fixed. It is necessary to remove the roller on the 100 series before
the cover can be removed. From my understanding of your problem it
would appear that you have 100 series pump and a 35/65 hydraulic
cover. The direction of operation of the control valve is also
different. The 100 control valve roller pushes rearwards to lift
whereas the 35/65 roller pushes forwards. No doubt the covers are
interchangeable but the workings are not.
Let us know what you find.

DavidP, South Wales
 
Hello again, sorry for the delay. I really need and appreciate your help.
I had trouble with uploading the photos, but I hope they are attached now.
This tractor has no S/N, so I do not know for sure what it is. But from certain things on it I think it is a MF2135 (an industrial version of the MF135). It has a Z145 Continental Gas Engine, which was made and installed in 1964-68. It has a 6 speed, shuttle shift transmission. It has a Marvin Schebler carburetor. It came with a MF236 front end loader.
--The pump control lever is attached with a pin and a clip. (see photo)
--There are two levers as shown in the photo. One is for the draft and the other is for Position control.
-- As I stated before, when I first opened it up, the pump control lever was missing, so there was no roller either.
--The pump control lever actuates by moving forward. And it appears that the draft and position levers actuate toward the rear, so they are working opposite. It is possible that the pump installed is incorrect. I need an expert to tell me if that is the case and what pump/control lever would fit and work correctly.
 
Sorry guys, I have tried to upload my photos as indicated at the bottom of this "Post a Reply) page, but it doesn't work. I will try to find out what the problem is. In the mean time, please be patient.
 
(quoted from post at 20:02:26 08/23/17) Sorry guys, I have tried to upload my photos as indicated at the bottom of this "Post a Reply) page, but it doesn't work. I will try to find out what the problem is. In the mean time, please be patient.
OK will this work? photos??
As you see, I have removed the lift cover which I had temporarily put in place. The pictures show the pump, control lever, and the position of the control lever relative to the vertical levers (when lift cover is in place). The roller (some call it the barrel) is not in place yet.

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(quoted from post at 19:53:24 08/23/17)
(quoted from post at 20:02:26 08/23/17) Sorry guys, I have tried to upload my photos as indicated at the bottom of this "Post a Reply) page, but it doesn't work. I will try to find out what the problem is. In the mean time, please be patient.
OK will this work? photos??
As you see, I have removed the lift cover which I had temporarily put in place. The pictures show the pump, control lever, and the position of the control lever relative to the vertical levers (when lift cover is in place). The roller (some call it the barrel) is not in place yet.
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Never seen one with two levers like that.
 

Hey, it looks like the photos are coming thru. Here are some pics showing the tractor. And another showing the vertical lever as I found it without the pump control lever or roller in place. It was not at the bottom either....nowhere to be found.
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The hydraulic pump you have is for a 135, or 2135 but the lift cover, and linkage is from a MF35 which uses a slightly different pump. You will probably need the controls, and lift cover from a 135, or 2135 with the controls that look like this that has the dash pot.
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It's been a long day.
 
(quoted from post at 23:34:26 08/23/17) The hydraulic pump you have is for a 135, or 2135 but the lift cover, and linkage is from a MF35 which uses a slightly different pump. You will probably need the controls, and lift cover from a 135, or 2135 with the controls that look like this that has the dash pot.
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It's been a long day.

Wow!! I never would have thought that someone would have installed a different lift cover on this tractor. Why?? Doesn't make sense.
Well now I will start looking around for the right lift cover. Sounds costly. I don't suppose there is a lift pump that I could buy to make this lift cover work?? That way might be cheaper.
 
It would probably be easier just to get the early MF35 pump assembly rather than the top cover, and or all the linkage for the 135/2135. More than likely they put the 35 top cover on just to sell it, they may have broke the original top cover.
 
(quoted from post at 21:09:09 08/25/17) It would probably be easier just to get the early MF35 pump assembly rather than the top cover, and or all the linkage for the 135/2135. More than likely they put the 35 top cover on just to sell it, they may have broke the original top cover.

I am looking at my options. Although it may be cheaper to buy the MF35 pump, I may want to move forward instead of backwards. I have a Lift Cover, P/n 190861M1 including the Response Control Quadrant, with a Lift Cylinder, p/n 190859M1,. Would the bracket, lever, and Linkages plus the Dashpot of the MF2135/MF135 fit on what I have if I could find them? I could replace the linkages, levers, and bracket I now have and avoid having to get another Lift cover and lift cylinder and associated hardware.
Is there a place I could find a used assembly of the MF135/2135 linkages, bracket, lever, and dashpot?
 
Come to think about it I may know where a complete 135 control linkage is. It maybe a couple of days, my mom has to have a plate put in her right wrist this morning. She fell twice in the last 6 months, and broke her right wrist for the second time in 6 months, just when she was almost able to write where it was kind of legible.
 
(quoted from post at 02:41:09 08/29/17) Come to think about it I may know where a complete 135 control linkage is. It maybe a couple of days, my mom has to have a plate put in her right wrist this morning. She fell twice in the last 6 months, and broke her right wrist for the second time in 6 months, just when she was almost able to write where it was kind of legible.

I'm sorry to hear about your Mom's wrist and wish her the best toward her successful recovery. My mom is 90 now and is constantly falling, but has not seriously injured herself. We can only pray.
Thanks so much for thinking of an available linkage assembly. Would be so grateful. Take the time you need and get back to me when you can. Let me know what the costs might be too.
 

Hi PTfarmer,
It's been a while now since your last post about possibly locating a MF135 hydraulic lift cover linkage, bracket, and dashpot assembly. Have you had a chance to look into it? I would appreciate a note to let me know. Or maybe you can put me in contact with the person who has that MF135 tractor. Thanks.
 
(quoted from post at 20:08:49 09/11/17)
Hi PTfarmer,
It's been a while now since your last post about possibly locating a MF135 hydraulic lift cover linkage, bracket, and dashpot assembly. Have you had a chance to look into it? I would appreciate a note to let me know. Or maybe you can put me in contact with the person who has that MF135 tractor. Thanks.


I completely forgot about it, when my mom went in for her surgery the orthopedic staff/doctor found she had a-fib. How the hospital and her pcp that she's had for years missed finding that beforehand got me on the warpath with them. What should have been outpatient surgery, became inpatient surgery so she had to stay in the hospital for a couple of days so the cardiologist that she has to see now could keep an eye on her. I took her to the orthopedic doctor today to x-ray her wrist so he can see how the surgery went, the doctor said it looks very good, and she can start therapy very soon.

Anyways now that things kind of settled down I can look to see what I got, and I'll let you know.
 
(quoted from post at 01:18:16 09/12/17)
(quoted from post at 20:08:49 09/11/17)
Hi PTfarmer,
It's been a while now since your last post about possibly locating a MF135 hydraulic lift cover linkage, bracket, and dashpot assembly. Have you had a chance to look into it? I would appreciate a note to let me know. Or maybe you can put me in contact with the person who has that MF135 tractor. Thanks.


I completely forgot about it, when my mom went in for her surgery the orthopedic staff/doctor found she had a-fib. How the hospital and her pcp that she's had for years missed finding that beforehand got me on the warpath with them. What should have been outpatient surgery, became inpatient surgery so she had to stay in the hospital for a couple of days so the cardiologist that she has to see now could keep an eye on her. I took her to the orthopedic doctor today to x-ray her wrist so he can see how the surgery went, the doctor said it looks very good, and she can start therapy very soon.

Anyways now that things kind of settled down I can look to see what I got, and I'll let you know.

Glad to hear that your mom's situation has come out OK.
Thanks for your help, much obliged.
 

I was wondering whether the parts you're thinking of might be located near by. I live just north of Santa Fe NM. If you aren't too far away, it might make sense for me to drive and pick them up. Since I will have my truck with me, I could get the entire Lift Cover and attachments, if not too expensive.
Where are the parts for the MF135/MF2135 located?
 

By the knowledgeable responses given by ptfarmer, I suspect that he might also be able to help me resolve my troubling apprehension in putting back together correctly my MF-135 rebuilt Quadrant assembly. It is the one with the dashpot and pressure control. Attached photos will indicate that the Draft control shaft / roller assembly will install with pin in two ways......180degrees apart. Only one way would be the correct way - config LEFT or RIGHT. No problem figuring out the Position Control (inner lever) because it is "Keyed" to install one way only.











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