1961 MF 35 primary fuel filter seal story

I found an old Massey Ferguson 35 on Craigslist for a cheap price (relatively). It came with a box scraper and a bush hog. Like I said its all relative especially if you don’t count my time. The Perkins A3.152 diesel engine had been run with a bad radiator and blown head gasket and when I got to it someone had partially dismantled the engine and sheet metal and lost half the parts. Typical basket case.
I began restoring the MF35 including a complete engine rebuild several years ago but never finished. Last month I found some free time so I decided to pick up the pieces and forge ahead. One of the issues was getting the primary fuel filter canister to seal up against the filter head which bolts to the battery box. On my tractor which has the Perkins A3.152 diesel there are two fuel filters, a primary (PN 890971M91) and a secondary (PN 5836010). I got replacement filters for both. Surprisingly I found that the gaskets for the secondary element fit OK but the big square gasket which came with the primary (WIX 33194) did not fit. When I took the filter head loose and looked at it I noticed that the groove was only about .09 wide. The Massey part number for the gasket is (1852075M1). The gasket which came with the new filter was close to .2 wide. There was no way it would fit into the groove or seal that fuel canister. Upon further investigation I found that there was a very hard gasket wedged into the bottom of the sealing groove. After prying it out I looked on line for anything about this seal and found nada. By the way the AGCO parts book 819045 has the drawing mislabeled as OIL FILTER page 123 instead of Primary Fuel oil Filter. If you are looking for the drawing containing the two filter assemblies for the A1.152 it is labeled FUEL LINES page 115.
I inquired at several local auto parts stores about orings who all looked at me blankly when I said I was working on a 1961 MF35 and asked me what year my car was. I then started looking on industrial supply web sites and found a Buna Nitrile oring which was .103 thick by 2-7/8 ID number 150, 70 durometer. Only problem was I would have to order a package of 50 to get the one I needed. They wanted $14 for that package but I thought about how much time I had already put into the search and decided my time was worth something so I went ahead and ordered the package. A hydraulic seal supply house I use here in Dallas has a $20 dollar minimum purchase so I didn’t feel too bad about paying the premium. Got the shipment today and after lubricating the groove in the filter head with mineral oil I was able to force a new oring into it with my thumb nails. Now I have 49 extra orings which will go in a box with all my other restoration detritus………..I mean spares.
The original basket case I inherited also had a horizontal mounted air filter assembly from a MF 135 with the paper elements which I wanted to keep. It did not however mount properly to the tractor. I fabricated a bracket to hold it in the proper position. It almost looks like it was designed to be there.
I have found that trying to source components through “proper” channels can lead to hours of frustration when the part you need is NO LONGER AVAILABLE. Most of the machines I work on are of that vintage and I find that substituting something I can fabricate or locate through EBAY, industrial suppliers or used parts outlets is the only way to move forward. Sometimes you can even improve on the original design if you are lucky.
PS I tried uploading a schematic and parts list JPGs of the assembly but Im not smart enough to figure out how :roll:
 
Please send picture of your MF 35:

Please send SERIAL # off DASH:

Please send serial # off A3.125 Engine:

The parts you were concerned with, are they on any of these pictures?

Bob..
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I just looked at agcopartsbook and it doesn't show that number being the seal for the primary filter. It shows either 1851891M1 or 1850933M1 depending on the filter housing used for the primary.
 
I can post you any parts needed for that tractor from across the Pond...We can get nearly every part for it as that tractor is still being manufactured somewhere in the World!
Sam
 
I'll try to upload a couple of pictures if I can figure out how.
If the pictures uploaded OK I will also say that there was no ID plate on the dash where it should have been.
The engine casting number indicates it is a 1961 Seat etc seem to be vintage Diesel Delux 35 or some permutation there of.
I can't get the photos to up load correctly sorry
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I have been fighting the leaky fuel filter myself. I found a spin on type filter that is "supposed" to bolt right up, its available in the UK, it's the filter head, and filter. I'll see how much of a bolt on it is when I get it.

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(quoted from post at 01:09:00 12/30/15) I have been fighting the leaky fuel filter myself. I found a spin on type filter that is "supposed" to bolt right up, its available in the UK, it's the filter head, and filter. I'll see how much of a bolt on it is when I get it.

ptfarmer, did you ever find that spin on fuel filter and if so, how does it work for you?
 
I did get the spin on fuel filter, bolted right on, and it works great. The place I got it from doesn't have any more of them.
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I'm looking for other sources to get them from.
 
I did get the spin on fuel filter, bolted right on, and it works great. The place I got it from doesn't have any more of them.
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I'm looking for other sources to get them from.
 

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