Brendon Warren

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I just bought a 165 with MP. The previous owner didn't use it so the linkage was stuck. I took the linkage off and am getting little play in just the rod down through the bellhousing. Its hard to tell if I'm moving the valve inside. On my 65s you could feel it. This one is kind of a bugger to get at. How much travel should be on that rod? Its stuck in low or high is out of it. Could any damage have been caused by leaving it in low so long? He said it worked but never used it because he wasn't familiar with it. He had it for 20+ years and only put 300 hrs on it. It also has square axles. Are these wet brakes? They sure work better than my 65 or 175. Thanks
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Good buy there Brandon but pray tell what brakes don't work better than a 65's? lol Dieseltech will know.
 
They are still dry brakes but larger than the early models had. On the wet brake 200 series there are visible notches cut into the bearing/seal plate on each side of the differential case. Low MP won't hurt anything that I know of, but if you can't feel the spool move there's a pivot bolt for the bellcrank inside that may be broken. Had that happen on a 65D once.
 
I had to force it pretty hard to get it to move. I hope I didn't break anything. It looks like it'll get a split but probably not until this winter. Nice straight tractor other than that. Meter reads 2400 and I believe it to be correct. If its the original drawbar the hole shows now wear. All gauges and lights even work. The side curtains and heater came with the cab and have never been installed. The differential is stuck so I have to see what's going on there. Tires however are poor but the rims are good.
 
Most people believe this is too simple to believe, but in all my years it worked most of
the time. With the multi power lever up, go to top of trans. loosen the clamp and tap
the "peg" down while holding the clamp up-then retighten and give a try. Chuck
 
Local MF dealer told me to "use it or lose it" with my 180, said that not using will cause the seals to leak due to lack of lubrication etc. I tend to believe this guy's advice. Maybe if everything works as is and you don't need it/feel like doing a reseal, leave it as is.
 
Hi Brendon,
In general tractors with square axles in the UK all have wet brakes. However some French-made models have square axles and dry brakes. if you remove the inspection plate under the gearbox and using a good flashlight you shouls be able to see the MP valve and linkage. If you can't see it you may be able to reach inside and feel it whilst an assistant operates it SLOWLY!!!! This should indicate whether it is intact and free.

As for leaving it in Low MP; I was told at the MF Training School that when MP is used in Low for long periods it should be moved into High occasionally. The reason for this is that although immersed in oil the plates in the clutch pack can run dry of oil and wear. Moving into High briefly will keep oil between them.

DavidP, South Wales
 

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