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Re: Massey 135 Front axle pivot issue / bush replacement

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DavidP, South Wales

07-10-2014 03:42:21

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You called m'sieur.....
Although similar in principle the design is very different. With the swept axle the one bush is retained in the centre beam section and the pin is retained in the axle casting. The The centre beam pivots of course on the pin. It has been debated whether the bush should be lubricated as the oil or grease would collect abrasive grit.
My preference would be for lubrication.

However the straight axle pin is retained in the centre beam and the bushes are pressed into the axle casting. A circlip is fitted to the rear of the pin in case it should work loose and find its way forward.

A straight axle overhaul is liklier to be more difficult if the axle pin is seized in the centre beam. No matter how much this has been greased it can still seize. If after removing the pin locking bolt/peg (up to UK serial no 434523) the pin is free to turn in the centre beam...the job will be easier.

You will need to remove the bonnet (hood) and radiator. This will give you a better view of the areas of wear. Ideally the stub axles should be removed as well. If there is only wear in the bushes they should be driven out with a suitable drift or MF tool 322 and handle 550. The same drift or MF 322 should be used to fit the new bushes. The bush faces must be 0.020" (0.508mm)below the web face where the beam makes contact.Six thicknesses of shim are available to bring the endfloat to as close to zero as you can. They are 888 361M1/362M1/366M1 for .25mm/.128mm/.51mm and 1863 312M1/313M1/314M1 for .91mm/1.04mm and 1.17mm respectively. Ensure that the bush grease galleries are clear.

If replacement parts (casting or beam) are required they should be available and not too expensive. Your message sounds like you might be in the UK. If so secondhand might be available from Ron Greet in Devon or a new beam 75 and casting 130 plus VAT are available from Agriline in Worcestershire. Bushes are 3 each and the pin 19.

Let us know how you get on.

DavidP, South Wales

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07-10-2014 06:13:58

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 Re: Massey 135 Front axle pivot issue / bush replacement in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 07-10-2014 03:42:21  
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Thanks all for the advise.
DavidP, a legend as always.
I am in the UK as you guessed, the MF tools you mentioned, are they easy to source or is there an alternative? I am in two minds whether just to pay someone to fix it or to try myself.
The chap who has worked on my tractor in the past found the issue and I can't afford his labour charges, hence my thoughts at sorting myself. This chap suggested that I would HAVE to have a new axle beam, he didn't even mention about the bushes. I can see that the rear bush is knackered. He didn't inspire much confidence in his skills, he came recommended, but maybe he's not done that much on MF 135's before.

I have attached a drawing from the Sparex site. It shows 2 different pivot pins (15 & 26), is this right?

I will pop the rad and bonnet (hood) off at the weekend and see whats going on. I will jack her up too and see where the movement is.
I will report back!

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DavidP, South Wales

07-11-2014 01:42:29

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 Re: Massey 135 Front axle pivot issue / bush replacement in reply to Pacer204, 07-10-2014 06:13:58  
Yes, there are two pin types for the front axle on the later 135.
1869 633M1 is up to s/n 434523 and 1869 634M1 is from s/n 434523. I have a recollection that the difference is in the length of the pin.
If you have basic tools and a safe means of supporting the tractor then there should be no problem. Once you have the new bushes and pin the cost of having a drift machined would be a simple job. Do you know anyone who has a hobby lathe in his garage? It's worth doing to make sure you don't damage the new bushes. If you need to make a puller then I or someone on here will talk you through it and show you what is needed. A worst case scenario would be that you can't remove the pin and have to take the beam and casting assembly to someone who has a suitable press....tractor dealership etc. If all fails then you should be able to hacksaw through the pin on both sides of the beam (don't think it will be too hard) and remove it that way.
With the bonnet, radiator and locking pin removed give the pin a few 'exploratory' wallops
with a heavy hammer or small sledge to see if you have any movement. If you do, you are halfway there!

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07-14-2014 15:11:19

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Hi David
Thanks for the advice, I'm going to give in a go! Will report back and may attempt a boring video!

Thanks to all for the advice- much appreciated.


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