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Perkins diesel water pump pulley

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colin hester

04-01-2014 18:35:45
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Does it require a puller to remove the WP pulley from the pump hub? Tapered shaft?? This has been an easy job so far, I hate to get stumped now........

Anybody???

Thanks in advance.




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robert major

04-02-2014 19:08:00
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 Re: Perkins diesel water pump pulley in reply to colin hester, 04-01-2014 18:35:45  
Hi If that pump is similar to whats on a 135 diesel that bolt doesn"t come out you can just about get a wrench on and undo it, leaving the bolt in the pump housing. When I had the new pump from A&I for this 135 motor, the pulley was already on and supplied with the new bolt in the hole in the pump housing. Ready to fit, no assembly or dis assembly of pump required.
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Colin Hester

04-03-2014 04:03:56
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 Re: Perkins diesel water pump pulley in reply to robert major, 04-02-2014 19:08:00  
There ended up being two bolts that wouldn't come out so I backed them out together and let the pump come out with them. Once the pump was off I discovered that the entire front cover has to come off to change out the thermostat housing. What a poor design for the end user. Cooling system parts should all be externally mounted for easy change out, in my opinion.



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hymie2lt

04-02-2014 07:28:14
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 Re: Perkins diesel water pump pulley in reply to colin hester, 04-01-2014 18:35:45  

Now to see if I can upload photos. Of course you will have to remove the one nut on the end of the pump shaft.



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Phil Tibbetts

04-02-2014 08:25:56
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 Re: Perkins diesel water pump pulley in reply to hymie2lt, 04-02-2014 07:28:14  
That pulley is different than mine.



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Colin Hester

04-02-2014 07:51:07
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 Re: Perkins diesel water pump pulley in reply to hymie2lt, 04-02-2014 07:28:14  
Nice pics. My application has a clearence issue on one mounting bolt. So, question answered and many thanks to everyone that replied. Now to go and find all the gaskets to put it all back together.



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hymie2lt

04-02-2014 09:40:36
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 Re: Perkins diesel water pump pulley in reply to Colin Hester, 04-02-2014 07:51:07  
Colin What engine or tractor are you fixing up? These pics are of a Massey super 90 with 4a300 perkins engine. Wayne



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Colin Hester

04-06-2014 05:48:38
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 Re: Perkins diesel water pump pulley in reply to hymie2lt, 04-02-2014 09:40:36  
I"m beginning to dislike MF tractors. Someone was not thinking very far ahead in the design department. You can not remove the crank pulley unless you split the tractor at the front end. Saying I"m frustrated in a huge understatement.



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Colin Hester

04-02-2014 17:21:56
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 Re: Perkins diesel water pump pulley in reply to hymie2lt, 04-02-2014 09:40:36  
Holy cow. I had no idea that replacing the t-stat housing required removing the whole front of the engine. This has turned into a long process. I would have never tackled this project outside if I"de known. Time to put the tent up.

Do I win if I get finished and there"s parts left over???



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Colin Hester

04-02-2014 09:53:04
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 Re: Perkins diesel water pump pulley in reply to hymie2lt, 04-02-2014 09:40:36  
Hi Wayne, I'm working on a Perkins AO4.203 diesel.



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hymie2lt

04-02-2014 07:03:21
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 Re: Perkins diesel water pump pulley in reply to colin hester, 04-01-2014 18:35:45  
Colin You will have to use a T-bar puller. Basically a T with the top of the T is split into two parallel bars. In the center is the screw hole and screw. The bottom of the screw goes into the center of the pulley, on the end of the water pump shaft You put a couple of long bolts into two opposite fan boltholes in the pulley. The top of the bolts go through the two parallel bars with washers to hold them in place from slipping through. tighten the two bolts to snug, equally. Then tighten the center screw, slowly. The pulley should slip right off with minimal difficulty. And you wont break the pulley, by pulling from the bottom. Hope I described the procedure in a way to be understood. I may be able to get a photo of the T-bar and how its set up. You can build a T-bar quite easily. Just need a nut welded in the center of two bars. and a long threaded bolt in the nut. Wayne

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Phil Tibbetts

04-02-2014 06:06:47
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 Re: Perkins diesel water pump pulley in reply to colin hester, 04-01-2014 18:35:45  
If you want to remove the pulley you will need to use a bearing separator or pull from the hub near the shaft, if not you will probably break the casting.



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samn40

04-02-2014 01:07:18
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 Re: Perkins diesel water pump pulley in reply to colin hester, 04-01-2014 18:35:45  
New pumps normally come with the pulley attached..........Sam



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Phil Tibbetts

04-02-2014 06:03:48
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 Re: Perkins diesel water pump pulley in reply to samn40, 04-02-2014 01:07:18  
The pulley is pressed on, no taper. I replaced mine with a complete new pump and don't recall any problem with a bolt being in the way.



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Colin Hester

04-02-2014 04:26:19
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 Re: Perkins diesel water pump pulley in reply to samn40, 04-02-2014 01:07:18  
Well, that"s good to know. The tractor owner doesn"t want to replace it because it"s not leaking. And, there is one bolt that can"t come out without the pulley removed. Reason for tear down is a busted thermostat housing. Everything else was in satisfactory condition.



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