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A4300 perkins Diesel

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1100D

02-16-2014 17:15:03
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Hello, I have an A4300 Perkins diesel in a 410 combine and thinking maybe it will fit in a 1080 tractor. Does anyone know if the bell housings will match up. Will the oil pan from the 318 match up to the A4-300




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Dieseltech

02-16-2014 20:00:02
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 Re: A4300 perkins Diesel in reply to 1100D, 02-16-2014 17:15:03  
Bell housing will bolt up no problem. The front block bolts are not the same way though, but can be made to work. You may need the 1080 oil pan bolted to the 410 block as I don't think they will interchange.



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1100D

02-17-2014 06:07:04
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 Re: A4300 perkins Diesel in reply to Dieseltech, 02-16-2014 20:00:02  
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Ok Great....! Thank you for that info. Do the two engines have the same horsepower? I know they have the same bore and stroke, so I assume they are the same. Exhaust and intake manifolds should inter-change.



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danperkins

02-17-2014 16:42:27
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 Re: A4300 perkins Diesel in reply to 1100D, 02-17-2014 06:07:04  
The hp will be pretty close in your tractor. The Super 90's were rated at about 1600 rpm @ 540 pto rpm, vs. about 2000 rpm @ 540 pto rpm in the 1080 and 1085's.



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Dieseltech

02-17-2014 07:10:44
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 Re: A4300 perkins Diesel in reply to 1100D, 02-17-2014 06:07:04  
The 410 and Super 90 used the A4.300 which is actually a 302. Has 4 1/2 inch bore and 4 3/4 inch stroke. 1080, 1085 and 540 combine used the 318 which had the same bore size but had a 5 inch stroke. Rods are the same but crank and pistons are different. Super 90 was rated 68 HP while the 1080-1085 was 80-82 hp range. I put the 318 crank in my S90 puller. Can't do it for long but have it over 200 now on the dyno, with more fuel and a turbo it gets hot REAL fast!

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Dieselmatic

02-17-2014 07:17:42
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 Re: A4300 perkins Diesel in reply to Dieseltech, 02-17-2014 07:10:44  
Do you have a pic of that 90 that you could post?



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Dieseltech

02-17-2014 07:50:49
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 Re: A4300 perkins Diesel in reply to Dieselmatic, 02-17-2014 07:17:42  
Have no pictures yet, but just think of the worst looking boneyard Super 90 you have ever seen with little to no paint and you will be close. Kinda like Dave Stangle's Solid Junk, I always liked that tractor!



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Tetanus

02-17-2014 08:47:49
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 Re: A4300 perkins Diesel in reply to Dieseltech, 02-17-2014 07:50:49  
Are you running the super 90 pistons with the 318 crank? If so did you have to cut the pistons down?



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Dieseltech

02-17-2014 09:21:31
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 Re: A4300 perkins Diesel in reply to Tetanus, 02-17-2014 08:47:49  
Yes, used the original 90 pistons with the tops cut down, and the bowl reshaped like the Perkins Quadram style. Also turned the pistons slightly smaller from the oil ring groove up.



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Tetanus

02-17-2014 07:02:31
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 Re: A4300 perkins Diesel in reply to 1100D, 02-17-2014 06:07:04  
The 318 out of a 1080 has 1/4in more stroke then the 302 out of the 410.



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