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Re: found thrust washers in pan of 165?

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mmidlam

09-24-2013 12:02:16
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Thank you for the reply. So, the wrong way around would mean the hard none babbit surface rubs on the crank journal face and wears the face? If the end float was maybe .050", the washers could drop out?




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Phil Tibbetts

09-24-2013 18:20:46
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 Re: found thrust washers in pan of 165? in reply to mmidlam, 09-24-2013 12:02:16  
As I remember it the gap was small, less than .010 but cannot remember the exact gap. I cannot cannot confirm it but I have been told that riding the clutch causes premature wear and failure of the thrust bearing.



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DavidP, South Wales

09-25-2013 01:17:16
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 Re: found thrust washers in pan of 165? in reply to Phil Tibbetts, 09-24-2013 18:20:46  
Hi,
Crankshaft end-float should be between .002 and 015".
It is a debatable subject but in my mind riding the clutch will certainly cause thrust and release bearing wear. Many tractors require the clutch pedal to be pressed in order to start. This puts load on both components when the oil is cold as well as increasing the load on the starter motor and battery.

OK, so it's not a lot but it exists.

Likewise I would never have a car that stopped the engine automatically if waiting for lights etc. It may be environmentally friendly but who will pay for my new starter motor when it wears out after being operated 3, 5, or 10 times more than it would have otherwise?

DavidP

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Phil Tibbetts

09-25-2013 06:08:42
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 Re: found thrust washers in pan of 165? in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 09-25-2013 01:17:16  
I understand what you are saying David, but I was referring to having your foot on the clutch pedal all the time while working the tractor. I've seen people do it.



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