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Re: massey 135 oil leak

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DavidP, South Wales

08-18-2013 15:15:42
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Hi Ron?
A whole host of issues have been brought up in your and subsequent postings and unfortunately the roller issue does highlight the absolute need to have a workshop manual to hand before tackling what is a relatively straightforward job without the relevant knowledge.
One thing that has not been mentioned is whether it is engine oil or transmission oil. Trying to read between the lines it would appear to be engine oil. Please confirm, yes or no.
Working on the basis of engine oil the tractor will need to be split. Clearly the clutch will need to be removed, stripped, cleaned and new plates fitted etc. It will be essential to clean out the bell housing and ensure that the split pin in the bottom is free and clear of debris.
In this instance I would suggest that the engine sump is removed and new gaskets/seals fitted. It is not possible to identify which is leaking so play safe and replace both. This can be done after the tractor has been rejoined.
If your leak is from the transmission then replacement of the seals is fairly straightforward. If necessary we can go through this after you have confirmed which oil is the culprit.
Where does the roller go? Gravity acts on all things and invariably the roller will find its way to the underside of the main hydraulic pump.
Retrieval is normally done after the pump has been removed. With all of the oil drained you can try sweeping the underside of the pump with a piece of wire or similar in the hope that you might just bring it out.
Before going any further make sure that you have a good workshop manual preferably a genuine MF one.
Please let us know about the oil.
DavidP, South Wales

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08-18-2013 22:27:17
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 Re: massey 135 oil leak in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 08-18-2013 15:15:42  
A telescopic magnet would help to find the roller. I found out about the roller the hard way too. Luckily we had a good MF dealer close by that got everything straightened and fixed. That was probably 30 years ago. Something went bang and the 3 pt. quit. For the life of me I can't remember what went wrong. I don't think it was anything real serious though.



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rong

08-18-2013 22:15:29
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 Re: massey 135 oil leak in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 08-18-2013 15:15:42  
Thanks,David for your response,I cant tell if it is engine oil or trans oil, obviously been slinging around in bell housing for quite some time, got my shop manual this afternoon,got sent out of town this week for work,should have plenty of time for reading in the evenings,one more thing I didn't mention earlier is when clutch pedal was all the way down,slight ticking/grinding coming from Bell housing area.
I looked inside and can see where something is grinding the housing on both sides,but cannot see any marks on pressure plate,or clutch housing.again thanks for your input.

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DavidP, South Wales

08-19-2013 13:28:59
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 Re: massey 135 oil leak in reply to rong, 08-18-2013 22:15:29  
There are several things that can cause strange noises. The springs on the release lever/s can break and be thrown out and make contact with the casing. If the release levers are being pushed in too far they can make contact with the pto plate and make pto engagement difficult or impossible.
Make a note of how much clutch pedal free travel you have and slacken the pinch bolt and increase it slightly. If the noise stops then it may have been the fingers contacting the pto plate.
Another possible cause of a rattle when the pedal is fully pressed is a worn pto flywheel plate. It locates on three heavy lugs on the main pressure plate. When wear occurs the ptoflywheel plate will 'fall' slightly as the flywheel turns. This causes the noise.
DavidP, South Wales

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