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Re: MF-165 three point hitch not working

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02-12-2013 03:10:47

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I still haven't found anything wrong. I have the lift arms stripped to the shaft and I can hear "clicking" when I turn by hand. I want to take the cover off to have a look. I have all the bolts out around the flange and can wiggle the cover. I am going to need to rig something to lift with as its very heavy. Anything I need to know? Are there parts that are going to fall apart when I lift cover or is it all pretty simple? There are four large nuts in the center of the cover. I haven't touched them. From other posts I am thinking there is hydraulic control mechanism bolted here from underneath. I want to make sure that there isn't anything less obvious that is going to screw me up. The cover is so heavy that there won't be any opportunity to feel any slight resistance if something is stuck or if there is anything tying the cover down from inside. I think I'm smart, but I am an amateur mechanic at best so don't assume I know anything. LOL. Thanks, you guys are great.

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02-12-2013 07:34:42

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 Re: MF-165 three point hitch not working in reply to jwillett2009, 02-12-2013 03:10:47  
I"m thinking it"s time for you to purchase a manual. But I"ll try to help before you break something.

1. I hope you have removed the round cover on the right side to inspect the spool valve, right? Now there is a roller that is captive within the linkage, tie a tag wire to it, so you don"t drop it in the belly. Now spread the linkage and remove the roller.

2. Remove the square cover, just under your right leg while sitting on the tractor, two bolts. This is the stand pipe cover from the lift pump.

3. Now, DON"T remove the four large nuts under the seat, they hold the lift cylinder. Install a eyebolt or something to attach your lifting system to the front seat bolt female thread. Lift the cover just up and forward a little while you observe the linkage thru the right side round cover to clear internals. I"m thinking you will need around 20 inches of lift to clear housing, been six years since I worked on my 150, so I might be off some.

BTW, the rattle you are hearing, I believe is the dog bone that is attached to the rocker shaft and goes into the lift cylinder piston, there is NO direct connection to the piston, ONE way cylinder.

I hope I have you in the right direction, others forum members will correct me, if I have pointed you in the wrong direction.


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02-13-2013 07:38:33

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 Re: MF-165 three point hitch not working in reply to Tom from Buckeye Lake, 02-12-2013 07:34:42  
Tom / Bob,

Here's a picture of the hydraulic control cover removed. I believe I see the roller you are telling me to tie up. Also, the spool valve is right there to the right..... right????.

Still not seeing anything odd although I'm not exactly sure what I'm looking for.

I pushed the plunger down and it slid right back up nice and smooth.

I am going to follow up with a post of a few more pictures of the tear down to this point in case it may help others.

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02-13-2013 08:10:24

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 Re: MF-165 three point hitch not working in reply to jwillett2009, 02-13-2013 07:38:33  
Your oil doesn"t look right to me. What color is it? Your photos make it look like a golden yellow/egg yolk color. It should be more of a green-amber color fresh out of the container.


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02-13-2013 10:13:33

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 Re: MF-165 three point hitch not working in reply to Christos, 02-13-2013 08:10:24  
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Hummmm??? Not sure what to say. I don't have a whole lot of experience. I guess it looks a bit "milkier" than whats left in the jug.

I've done some research although I don't have all the history. I bought the tractor with my property and started using it about a year ago to mow and blow snow. I haven't done any major maintenance yet. I check the fluids, grease ect. but I haven't changed transmission oil or anything like that. I was planning the 100hr maintenance this spring after maple sugaring is done.

I haven't bought hydraulic oil. What I found in the garage (and I assume is in the hydraulics of my tractor) is Multi G134 from New Holland. From a bit of looking, it seems it's compatable with M1129 or M1129A which is called for in my Owner's manual.


Another picture.

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02-12-2013 08:03:39

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 Re: MF-165 three point hitch not working in reply to Tom from Buckeye Lake, 02-12-2013 07:34:42  
Sounds like I"m on the right track so far.

I agree with you on the manual. I got all tee"d up to buy it last night until I got to the part were they won"t ship to Canada. Anyway, at this point I am working with an exploded parts view that I got from a supplier website and instructions that I"ve received from good folks like you.

At this point I"ve done everything you"ve described except I haven"t separated the linkage yet. I"m not impatient when it comes to stuff like this so I stop when I am not sure. I haven"t pulled on the cover or anything yet so I"m pretty sure I haven"t broken anything.... (yet). I genuinely appreciate the help and I"m taking a few pictures as I go so I can post progress or mistakes for others.

Like I said, I"m not a mechanic but I"ve got tools, patience, and I can follow instructions so hopefully things will work out.

I"ve got the local Massey Dealer checking to see if he can get me the shop manual. Expecting a call this afternoon.

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