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jedagi

02-03-2013 07:04:35
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I'm restoring my tractor. I removed the wheel weights to paint the wheels. I use this tractor for gardening and other stuff. I am trying to decide whether to put weights back on or fill the tires. Pulling a bedder or turning plow sometimes calls for a little extra traction.




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Deere Driver

02-04-2013 16:45:37
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 Re: MF 65 wheel weight vs filled tires in reply to jedagi, 02-03-2013 07:04:35  
You're right about the price. $310 bought 86 gallons for 900# of weight. Figures out to be $3.60 per gallon. I agree with the cast iron weight preference, but my old tractor has no provision for weights.



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Gearhead210

02-04-2013 09:17:30
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 Re: MF 65 wheel weight vs filled tires in reply to jedagi, 02-03-2013 07:04:35  
Iron weights will allow the tire to better follow contours of the ground, and leave a more even footprint (more noticeable with radials). The fluid inside of a tire is non-compressible, and doesn't let the tire flex as much as it can with just air in the tires. For an example just look at any new tractors (Big 4x4 or FWA tractors) sitting in dealer lots- "most" have a ton of iron weights on them, and radial tires that look half flat, but that's just the way theyre designed to have best traction. But, that being said I still have fluid in my old fergies since fluid is cheaper by far :)

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David G

02-04-2013 05:44:57
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 Re: MF 65 wheel weight vs filled tires in reply to jedagi, 02-03-2013 07:04:35  
You should be fine with weights. I run washer fluid and weights on loader tractor, weights on all others.



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Dean

02-03-2013 11:38:20
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 Re: MF 65 wheel weight vs filled tires in reply to jedagi, 02-03-2013 07:04:35  
Regarding traction, weight is weight.

Because I change my own tires I never fill tires.

I have weights for just about all of them and much prefer weights to liquid.

Dean



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Deere Driver

02-03-2013 10:33:20
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 Re: MF 65 wheel weight vs filled tires in reply to jedagi, 02-03-2013 07:04:35  
Don't know the cost of calcium chloride, but I paid $310 to have beet juice pumped in both rear tires. Stuff looked like molasses, but will not freeze or damage your rims like calcium chloride. Sooner or later calcium chloride will leak and ruin your rims. Not if, but when. If you're far enough south, where freezing is never an issue, I have heard that some just fill with water.



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Deere Driver

02-03-2013 09:55:43
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 Re: MF 65 wheel weight vs filled tires in reply to jedagi, 02-03-2013 07:04:35  
I needed weight for my Massey-Harris 50 when plowing with a 2-16 Massey plow. On my tractor, there are no bolt holes in the wheel centers to mount weights...in fact, the manual suggests adding fluid if extra weight is needed. Previous owner used calcium chloride, which eventually rusted out the rims. After replacing the rims and tires, I installed beet juice. On my 13.6-28 tires, this adds about 450# to each wheel. Best of all, beet juice does not rust and will not freeze. Really does the job.

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s19438

02-03-2013 10:18:33
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 Re: MF 65 wheel weight vs filled tires in reply to Deere Driver, 02-03-2013 09:55:43  
what's the cost of beet juice vs cc??
thanks.



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Dean

02-03-2013 11:40:23
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 Re: MF 65 wheel weight vs filled tires in reply to s19438, 02-03-2013 10:18:33  
Rim Gard (beet juice) is considerably more expensive that CACl, over $3.00/gal + installation when I last checked.

Dean



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old

02-03-2013 09:12:01
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 Re: MF 65 wheel weight vs filled tires in reply to jedagi, 02-03-2013 07:04:35  
Fluid in the tires does a better job then weight do because the fluid sits on the tire tread. The wheel weights put the weight on a air bag so you have more bounce so they do not do as well. That said each has its good and bad points.



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jedagi

02-03-2013 16:27:29
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 Re: MF 65 wheel weight vs filled tires in reply to old, 02-03-2013 09:12:01  
I learn something new everyday. Never heard of beet juice. @3 bucks a gallon ill use my wheel weights. I'm going to try it without weights and see how it pulls.
Thanks for the replies.



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