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"Deteriorating" Rims

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LRRifleman

01-29-2011 08:02:01
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Hello.

I have a 1970 Massey Fergusson Model 135 DeLuxe that I picked up within the past 2 weeks. When moving snow yesterday, I discovered the inside wall of one of the rear tires was well cracked and providing little support. Today, when I dug out the tire gage, I discovered the rim near the valve stem is "deteriorating" ... I do not know of the shop would do anything when it comes to changing the tube/valve stem. The deterioration was camoflaged by paint.
Is the deterioration or the rim (mostly rust-through) repairable? Can the metal around the valve stem be repaired, or am I forced to locate and purchase new adjsutable 28" rims?

Thanks, Ed

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dweitzel

03-11-2011 17:37:47
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 Re: Deteriorating Rims in reply to LRRifleman, 01-29-2011 08:02:01  

I just repaired both my spin out rims. I had both rims needing repair. One rim had a hole large enough to stick my fist through. The other had a hole about 1".

The other post was right about needing to repair more than is seen. The large hole required a "patch" of about 8" and the smaller hole actually spread more laterally and required a piece about 10".

I accepted a donor rim from my local tire shop that had a bunch of pieces cut from it already. It had the same profile as my spin out rim. I used a cut off wheel to remove the pieces from the donor and used them as a template to cut the bad pieces from the rims.

Bottom line, a LOT of cutting and welding to fill and replace, but at almost $400 per rim, 2 nights of cutting and welding were worth it to me.

You really need a donor rim to make it a LOT easier on yourself. Try you local tractor tire dealer and they may have something sitting around that you can aquire or purchase. They may also do the work, but I'd bet it will be costly.

After the patch, I had the rims sand blasted and found 3 more minor holes that I just filled in with weld and ground flat.

I was only able to purchase Massey gray paint locally and opted for that instead of the correct silver mist.

I probably have 4-6 hours each rim, plus $188 to un-mount and re-mount the tires, $50 in paint and materials. $80 sandblasting. basically $320 in costs and my time.

Hope this helps.

Dave

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Torparn

02-05-2011 00:25:52
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 Re: Deteriorating Rims in reply to LRRifleman, 01-29-2011 08:02:01  
I've fix my MF65 with 5x20 mm ironbars but then it was only rusted on the "flat" surfaces.



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supergrumpy

01-29-2011 09:19:35
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 Re: Deteriorating Rims in reply to LRRifleman, 01-29-2011 08:02:01  
sounds like your rims might have been eaten up from inside by calcium leakage from filled tires

had same problem, when I got tires off most of the metal on the inside the rims had been converted to brittle chunks of iron chloride, bot new rims as the loop rims are readily available

if you only have small bad spot around the valve stem, you might be able to weld patch in place then redrill new valve stem hole in another spot on the rim

depends on how much you want to mess with it

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DavidP, South Wales

01-29-2011 08:53:48
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 Re: Deteriorating Rims in reply to LRRifleman, 01-29-2011 08:02:01  
Hi Ed,
There are a lot of ifs and buts to answer this one, namely;
How big is the area that you need to replace?
However big it appears now you can expect to increase that size by the time you get it cleaned and back to good metal.
What is the profile of the piece to be replaced? If its flat its straightforward. If it has the steps in for the outside of the rim that's another matter.
What have you got to cut out the damaged metal? A 4 inch angle grinder with metal cutting disc or a plasma cutter would be best.
Can you or someone locally form a new piece of metal to suit?
When you have done this, will you be able to weld it in place.
I repaired one of the rear rims from my 165 recently but the required metal was only slightly curved.
It certainly complicates the issue having adjustable rims? Do you need them? There should be plenty of standard rims (assume 11-28 tyre size) at breakers. If adj are not needed, fixed rims might be a worthwhile option.
DavidP, South Wales

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