Update, gear reduction starter fit

morgan in ar · Apr 1, 2020

I ended up ordering a gear reduction
starter online for a 3020. It was under
$100, shipping and all. It works really
well, really spins the engine over. I've
never had the tractor start so well. The
tractor thanked me by blowing a hydraulic
hose ten minutes later...

buickanddeere · Apr 1, 2020

(quoted from post at 17:21:32 04/01/20) I ended up ordering a gear reduction
starter online for a 3020. It was under
$100, shipping and all. It works really
well, really spins the engine over. I've
never had the tractor start so well. The
tractor thanked me by blowing a hydraulic
hose ten minutes later...

Thanks for the update
Nobody ever installed a starter with too many Kw of power on a Diesel engine.

Bob · Apr 1, 2020

(quoted from post at 16:21:32 04/01/20) I ended up ordering a gear reduction
starter online for a 3020. It was under
$100, shipping and all. It works really
well, really spins the engine over. I've
never had the tractor start so well. The
tractor thanked me by blowing a hydraulic
hose ten minutes later...

Would you post a make/part number for the next guy?

Did it fit under the intake manifold, or turned to the side?

Photo?

morgan in ar · Apr 1, 2020

Sure. I ordered it from Walmart,
strangely enough. I didn't have to modify
it at all. The only thing that I don't
like, is it sounds weird. It doesn't
sound like a 60's American tractor
starting anymore. I can get used to that.

Bob · Apr 1, 2020

Sure tucks in the nice.

It appears to be a clone of a Delco 28MT.

buickanddeere · Apr 1, 2020

(quoted from post at 19:12:02 04/01/20)
Sure tucks in the nice.

It appears to be a clone of a Delco 28MT.

they spec out at approx 2.8Kw iirc .

JDIH · Apr 1, 2020

The weird sound is just the gear reduction part of the starter. You'll get used to it. I put one on a similar tractor. Best money ever spent. Spins it over fast and starts quickly. It was a hard starter for many years. Now it fires right up every time

M-MAN · Apr 2, 2020

Appreciate the update.

Wish someone would make one for my old 850 Ford diesel.

matthies · Apr 2, 2020

Put one like that on a 3010 for a farmer, 6 months later he calls and says tractor won't start and can't pull start it. Nose cone broke off and wedged in the clutch housing.

SHALER · Apr 2, 2020

Thanks for posting Morgan and best of luck to you. Stick a reminder in your phone to post back here after about 300 starts. Its just hard to believe at that price you will get much mileage from that starter.

Glen D Anderson · Apr 2, 2020

Certainly looks & fits good. Durability will be the real question.

Years ago the company I worked for chose to replace the factory equipped 42MT starters, when they failed, with Mitsubishi gear reduction units. To start with all of us liked the proposition as installation was a lot easier with the lighter, more compact starter. The company also liked it because they were cheaper.

6 months and later down the road when the starters began to fail the 42MTs started looking good again.

Hopefully this unit is different.....

(quoted from post at 14:21:32 04/01/20) I ended up ordering a gear reduction
starter online for a 3020. It was under
$100, shipping and all. It works really
well, really spins the engine over. I've
never had the tractor start so well. The
tractor thanked me by blowing a hydraulic
hose ten minutes later...

tomstractorsandtoys · Apr 2, 2020

Had the same experience with a 3020 only mine happened when starting and the broke off end ate the teeth off the ring gear. The only positive part was the tractor needed a clutch anyway but not right that day.LOL Tom

SVcummins · Apr 2, 2020

That looks like the same starter as I have and it?s been a good one

NoDakInMN · Apr 3, 2020

While I have a few JD two bangers, my yard tractor for years has been a 405 Belarus. One day in the middle of snow blowing season, the starter crapped out. Stock replacement was nearly $500 but I saw the gear reduction for about $100. I decided to take a chance and boy am I ever glad I did. Not only did it bolt right up but being smaller, it was far easier to install. The 405 was a good starter in the cold, but it had to crank for a while to get going, but with the gear reduction starter, it spun over way faster and fired up right away. One of the best decisions I ever made.

Richard in Bee · Apr 3, 2020

(quoted from post at 16:04:48 04/01/20) Sure. I ordered it from Walmart,
strangely enough. I didn't have to modify
it at all. The only thing that I don't
like, is it sounds weird. It doesn't
sound like a 60's American tractor
starting anymore. I can get used to that.
<img src="https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cvphotos/cvphoto10411.jpg">

<img src="https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cvphotos/cvphoto10412.jpg">

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The sound of them reminds me of an early 1970s Chrysler.

buickanddeere · Apr 3, 2020

Two types of these gear reduction starters.
#1 The more efficient Permanent Magnet PM gear reduction.
#2 The conventional series motor with gear reduction.

SVcummins · Apr 4, 2020

I?m have one on a 3020 and that thing was so hard to start
before new injectors I melted the stud that goes from the
solenoid to the starter motor tore the starter apart put in a new
stud and new insulation washers and it?s still going strong 2
years later . I can?t wait to get rid of this 42mt pos on my 4020
the only problem is I paid 430$ for it so I hate to just junk it
and I hate to pawn it off on some other poor slob wish I could
find someone willing to pay 150$ for it

buickanddeere · Apr 4, 2020

While cranking what is the voltage measured between the stud on the starter that battery cable connects to and the starters cast iron body .
Suspect there is something damaged inside the 42MT as they are rated for 7.2Kw on 12V . Or the electrical system has VD .
Iskra makes some powerful generic starters .

SVcummins · Apr 5, 2020

I?ll have to check voltage and report beck

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