Allied loader JD Mdl 1020 gas tractor

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Hi John Deere gurus! New to this forum, although i have gotten a great deal of useful info from the Oliver Forums and users.

Can any of you knowledgeable folks provide any info or opinions on the subject tractor/loader?
I am looking at buying a GAS loader tractor and this one has come up for sale.
Diesel fumes make me sick, thus the gas requirement.

They are asking 7K$ for the 1020 gas JD Tractor (unknown Hrs, supposedly no leaks- have sent the following questions on more details), Allied loader(model unknown now) and 7' mower (make model unknown at this time)
Here are the questions i have sent to the owner:
1. Can you take a picture of the tractor and manuf. loader tag (which usually shows mdl, s/n etc.) and email to me?
2. Hours on the tractor? Is hour meter working?
3. Picture of the gage panel.
4. Any issues with the tractor loader or mower that need replacing, repair, work, or that does not operate as it should?
5. Make/model of the mower?
6. Does the tractor smoke or burn oil?
7. Do you have any information on the level of maintenance performed on the tractor when owned for ?? years by your husbands friends father?
8. Can you take a few more pictures showing: a) full Lt. and Rt. Side view of tractor/loader b) full view of rear of tractor/loader c) full front view of tractor/loader?
9. I know I asked but just want to be sure that there are not engine/transmission or hydraulic leaks on the loader?

I have included a few pics fyi.

Seems a little high on the price but would like your opinion of the tractor,loader, mower as far as durability, and quality, and amount of maintenance these tractors typically require and a fair price.

Any recommendations, info or advice is welcome.

Thanks,
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It does not look like it's been beat up much for a loader tractor its age. Those tractors are very handy and maneuverable. The loader looks like it might be easy to remove and reattach. The swept back front axle and lack of hydraulic remotes suggests it was not a loader tractor all its life.

If you will use the mower, I would ask which PTO it has: transmission driven, 2 stage continuous running or independent hydraulic actuated.

Power steering was an option. Deere had really good finger tip power steering that you'll want and need with a loader.

Things to watch for are: old coolant can cause cavitation leaks through the engine sleeves; water in the hydraulics can cause the brake pads to disintegrate and contaminate the hydraulic system. Bring some coolant test strips and check for milky hydraulic fluid.
 
ss55,Thanks for taking the time to educate me!
Really good points you bring up.
I forgot to ask about the PS, but sent that Q just now. As you say PS is an absolute must for a loader.
Great stuff for what to check for on the coolant and hydraulics.
Much Appreciated.

Know anything about the Allied Loader?

Thanks Again.
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Allied loaders are pretty good. The only drawback is that you have to remove the entire loader to access the air filter on JD tractors, whereas a JD loader does
not have that disadvantage. Swept back axle is OK but less desirable for a loader since it results in more weight on the front axle, but does a,low better maneuverability. If the tractor has closed centre hydraulics, make sure the loader return line is routed to the ported trans filter canister and the loader valve is compatible with the proper routing....that is, not using the tractors remote outlets to source oil for the loader.
Other than that, it looks good....and handier than a pocket in a shirt!
Ben
 
centash,
thanks for more valuable info., much appreciated.
i would like to ask some questions that show just how ignorant i am:

1. How do i determine it's a 'swept back axle'?
2. Is there a way i can determine if it has 'closed center hydraulics'? can you describe how to determine, as well as the 2 other recommendations on the hydraulics?
3. i have not seen the tractor only the pics i sent. It appears from what little i know that the tractor has no remote hydraulics ports from the 1st pic posted, or are the two empty remote holders seen in the pic not a sure indication of no remotes?

Thanks,
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JD 1020 has closed center hyd's but could have open center steering depending on serial number.. Tractor in photo has swept back frt axle which allows it to have a shorter turning radius.
 
Swept back front axle is evident in the picture...the axle itself is not straight across under the tractor, but rather angled back such that the front wheels are aft of the centre axle pivot point. There may be two levers just to the right of the seat, the larger for the 3 pth and the smaller for the remote outlets. If there is no smaller lever, then the loader should have it's own valve mounted on the aft of the right hand boom, within easy reach from the seat. In some cases, the remote lever is used to operate the loader and the loader itself has no valve. This is the less desirable arrangementThe connection of the hoses from the loaders valve is recommended to T into a line by the remote valve to the right of the seat and the return line attached to the ported filter canister on the underside of the tractor if it has closed centre system. The pressure line connections can vary from tractor to tractor, depending on how they were equipped from the factory.By looking at it and with someictures, those on line here more knowledgeable than I will be able to determine whay you have. Keep us posted.
Ben
 
I don't know much about Allied loaders. Being able to remove or attach a loader in under five minutes really increases the usefulness of a loader tractor.

Here is the manufacture's website for some of their loaders operators manuals. Ask the seller for the model number or look for one similar to the pictures.
https://www.farm-king.com/pages/product_allied_front-end-loaders.php#Manuals

$7000 seems high, $5000 plus would be a fair price, but a lot depends on the condition of any used machines.
 
Thanks to ALL for you time and effort in your replies, much appreciated.
As i get answers to my questions and requests for more pics will post to try and determine some of the hydraulic plumbing particulars.

Thanks Guys!!

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ss55,
you mention: "If you will use the mower, I would ask which PTO it has: transmission driven, 2 stage continuous running or independent hydraulic actuated."

can you help me understand why the type of PTO is important if using the mower? and is one type of PTO preferred over the other for mower use?

also, Tractor data lists the 3 types as:
continuous
live* (this must be the same as your transmission driven??)
independent*

Thanks for your help.

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Trans driven pto would require an over-running clutch for safe operation of a rotary mower

Continuous pto has dual stage clutch

Hyd ind. pto has a control lever between the 2 trans shift levers
 
They sold the tractor on me. At least it was BEFORE i paid my inspection guy to go out and evaluate the tractor.

I have however found one that is even nicer, BUT the down side it's 1200 miles away from me and i am guessing the transport fee would be at least $2k.

Anyway here it is:
https://www.marketbook.ca/listings/farm-equipment/for-sale/26458997/1967-john-deere-1020

any comments on this new prospect are encouraged.

Thanks
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I think a JD 1020 with Gasoline engine,48 loader appearing to have been freshly painted isn't worth $10,445 & I'll bet advertised hrs of a little over 1100 is incorrect.
 
Thanks Tx Jim for your reply.
think the price of $10,445 is Canadian dollars. (CAD)
same thing happened to me. If you go to the 'For sale price' window you can select the exchange currency for price.
when you do that the price is $7950 US Dollars (USD)

What's your opinion at that price?

Since the 48 loader seems to only have one cylinder to control the bucket angle, it seems it would not be as rugged as one with two?
Not sure which model that would be.
Your thoughts?
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I didn't comprehend CAD $$$$. $7950 is still fairly high for a gasoline model with a 48 loader. 48 loader wouldn't accept any SSQA brackets or other normal QA brackets.
 
In your opinion is the single cylinder as robust as a double cylinder on this or similar sized tractors?
 

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