I was working on the neighbors 4055 JD, he is a Red Guy originally so has Hy-tran on hand and did not want to stock another brand or Hy-Gard. I did a fair amount of looking on the internet at specifications. Truthfully, I really did not totally understand the specifications but I could not find a good reason not to use the Hy-Tran, albeit they are clearly different oils, mostly around water absorption from what I could tell. Yes, many commented they used an alternate to Hy-Gard without issue. The dealer service department manager had an interesting comment, "given it is an older tractor by the time it fails no one will know if it was the oil". :)

I worked for an HVAC Manufacturer and I cannot tell you the amount of money that went into formulating oil that was compatible with the materials in the equipment. I am certain the Ag Equipment Manufacturers do the same.

So, if it was me I would use the Manufacturers Recommended oil in the their equipment. I had a sick gut for days after I dumped Hy-Tran in that JD. By the way, our local JD has an oil and filter sale starting February 1.

Many have said brake chatter is an oil issue. Well I don't know. I do know that if I put new brakes and disks in a New Gen JD with the correct oil there is no chatter even though it chattered before.

Do what you want. That is just me. Many will tell you it doesn't matter or might even tell you they have a better oil. I don't agree.

Paul
 
I know the brake chatter is a lot less with hy Gard than the cheap oil. I?ve been running the bomgarrs premium jd oil it?s a little more than the cheap stuff but my snchro range in the 4020 shifts a lot better than with the yellow 303 bucket this is from the back of the 303 bucket
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I?ve used hy Tran before and I was using some at work the other day and it was a lot thicker viscosity than it use to be
 
If I had an IH or Case-IH tractor I would put Hy-Tran in it. As far as I know it is a great oil for the that equipment. I just wanted to clarify.

Thanks for the info SV.

Paul
 
This has been brought up several times now. Some guys say you don't need hy guard others say to use nothing but hy guard. I have no proof hy guard is better or worse than any other oil so my opinion is to use it. None of my tractors are power shift but I refuse to use anything but hy guard. It's not cheap and might be a waste of money but it's my money to waste. I keep remembering the old saying, you can pay me now or you can pay me later, but you will pay. I'm not going to tell anyone else what to do but I'm going to keep using it.
 
I like hy Gard and I may start using it again now that I?ve fixed the oil leaks on my farm hand loader the 3020 is leaking out of the draft sensing shaft which is a pretty easy fix . I know the premium cheap oil works a lot better than the 303
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My cousin uses 424 Mobil but at 75$ at the local fiat just in case house it?s 75$ a bucket it?s no cheaper than hy Gard
 
There are other oils that are equal to the Hy-guard. The trouble is the correct ones are not much cheaper. The real cheap ones usually are not made for oil bath clutch packs. I have had several failed perma clutches and Hi-Lo clutch packs due to cheaper hydraulic oil. Usually they effect the bonding with the clutch plates. The disk will not be bonded to the plates when you take them apart.

The cost of any wet clutch or PS pack repair will always be more than the saving from cheap hydraulic oil.
 
(quoted from post at 15:47:23 12/10/17) I?ve used hy Tran before and I was using some at work the other day and it was a lot thicker viscosity than it use to be


So is the new Hy Tran and Hy Gard about the same viscosity or not? The reason I ask is I ran out of Hy Tran I use in the 1086 and am thinking switching to Hy Gard. I use Hy Gard in my 4650 Deere and would like to standardize the oil. The 1086 is my loader tractor and is used in cold Iowa temps. The Hy
Tran is thick enough now in the winter. I don’t want to go to anything thicker.
 
I bought hy gard in barrels for years but when oil got so high
some years ago I let customers furnish their own oils.
I end up with a lot of different colored empty buckets. Most use
Deere oil but the others don't seem to have any problems.
 
It seems to me the Hy Gard I use is a little heavier than the Hy Tran I use judging by the way it pours. I am not against using a little heavier oil in the 1086, in fact heavier oil might perk up the worn hydraulics a bit, but when it's fired up cold on a zero degree or below morning I would not want to use an oil that's heavier than HY Tran.
 
I have both green and red and use Hy-Gard in everything. From what I've read (and personal experience), Hy-Gard is fine in an IH. Of course now I'll probably be blasted by the die hard red fans.....but there is plenty of threads out there that show Hy-Gard is good for both.
 
John Deere was offering a better warranty than case ih on case ihs own equipment if you switched to there lubricants I?ve got the papers buried deep somewhere right from John Deere I wish I could find them again beacause I?m sure nobody work believe me
 
The Hy Tran I used the other day looked and felt
the same viscosity as Hy Gard but red although I?m
not a viscometer it sure seemed the same
 

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