John Deere 4440 Blowby

grnwrnchr

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I have a 4440 with some hours but it starts well summer or winter, doesn't use much oil, but at times when I start it, engine oil runs out the blowby tube, like pouring oil out of a can, amounts to maybe a cup, then it quits and doesn't bother anymore. It doesn't do it all the time. Hauling bales down the road there will be an oil film on the right back tire, but working around the yard doesn't bother. No hydraulic leaks. There are no signs of water getting in the oil. Anyone else had that problem ? Thanks.
 
You probably have a piston scoffing and letting compression past,,and the other ones are carrying the game...has the oil level stayed normal??
 
(quoted from post at 00:57:08 11/15/17) You probably have a piston scoffing and letting compression past,,and the other ones are carrying the game...has the oil level stayed normal??
It takes some oil, maybe a couple quarts in 100 hrs, seems to have enough power and starts good. Adding oil isn't a problem, it's the mess it makes. Going to pull injectors next and check leakage. It just makes no sense that it pushes out oil like that. I don't mean a mist, on start up it pours out about a cup of oil like someone pouring it out of a can, a regular stream, then it quits, but doesn't do it every time.
 
The intake for the breather is on top of the valve cover, so pooling there is not likely...This is a strange thing to be happening...
 
Is it possible that one of the rocker shaft plugs is leaking or fallen out & the top of the head is being flooded with oil faster than it can drain back?

(quoted from post at 16:15:47 11/14/17) I have a 4440 with some hours but it starts well summer or winter, doesn't use much oil, but at times when I start it, engine oil runs out the blowby tube, like pouring oil out of a can, amounts to maybe a cup, then it quits and doesn't bother anymore. It doesn't do it all the time. Hauling bales down the road there will be an oil film on the right back tire, but working around the yard doesn't bother. No hydraulic leaks. There are no signs of water getting in the oil. Anyone else had that problem ? Thanks.
 
It would take over a gallon of oil to fill the valve cover area enough to pour out through the baffle on the top of the valve cover...
 
It could be pooling in the horizontal run along the top of the valve cover or there might be a conditional pooling internal to the vent can inside the valve cover. A cup is quite a bit though. I would revisit the can inside the valve cover, drill some drain holes in it maybe and make the horizontal run an uphill climb no matter what local hump the tractor was parked on the side of overnight. Things to do also would be to test first startup blow by with the old dollar bill trick but don't use real money for goodness sake. Looking for wild variations in amounts of blow by from day to day that might hold the answer for why not always it does this.
 
(quoted from post at 15:14:26 11/15/17) Is it possible that one of the rocker shaft plugs is leaking or fallen out & the top of the head is being flooded with oil faster than it can drain back?

(quoted from post at 16:15:47 11/14/17) I have a 4440 with some hours but it starts well summer or winter, doesn't use much oil, but at times when I start it, engine oil runs out the blowby tube, like pouring oil out of a can, amounts to maybe a cup, then it quits and doesn't bother anymore. It doesn't do it all the time. Hauling bales down the road there will be an oil film on the right back tire, but working around the yard doesn't bother. No hydraulic leaks. There are no signs of water getting in the oil. Anyone else had that problem ? Thanks.
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I had run it before with the valve cover off, first at idle then at 1500, couldn't see anything happening other than the rocker arms getting oil. No excess oil anywhere.
 
Well, so much for that idea then......back to the drawing board! LOL


I had run it before with the valve cover off, first at idle then at 1500, couldn't see anything happening other than the rocker arms getting oil. No excess oil anywhere.
 
If the oil lose is only at start up some times I would look at breather inside cover or out .If your losing oil out breather while running at all times you my have
bigger problems . Does the exhaust show oil smoke . Sounds like oil vapor condensing in breather and not draining back to crankcase .
 

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