Cjd12000, If you wanted to email me about the pump you have I may have a use for it anyway and thanks for the phone number update haha
Tx Jim, thanks for the response, now I have another question. My pump is a CBC-431-7AL, p/n AR-41625, and at my last count, which may be wrong, I could have had up to 4 different pump options, so if another tractor, regardless of model or color, was supplied with one of the same four pump part numbers do they all share the same drive shaft? Please excuse my ignorance on that since I have not looked at all the part numbers for all four pumps but in my early thinking on this, if four different model pumps all carried the same drive shaft, I would have thought that someone would be reproducing them, the drive shaft that is and as of now, I cant even find one to buy, which led me to thinking about turning out my own and trying to resurrect mine. In my reading and talking to a couple people, I have found that going to a JDB more than likely will require something like an adapter kit, just for the pump mounting, and as stated before, the same model injector lines to match the pump. And on a side note Tx Jim, I have enjoyed reading your posts over the years and just wanted to thank you for that.
Bob, can we call this a misunderstanding? You read my statement from the perspective of me trying to screw someone and i make my statement based on me trying something to see if i can make it work and did not include that i wasnt going to try and dump a junk pump on some shop, i thought my including the price of 1600 bucks for a pump without a core would have covered that, clearly i did a poor job of that, my apologies.
Your statement regarding the dealers and your relationship them does make for some interesting questions and maybe you can help with them. Keep in mind that my questions are ONLY regarding a CBC pump. Since these are obsolete pumps and none of these parts exist new, then what defines a rebuilt pump? Almost all the posts i have read on here and the crawlers forum regarding the cbc pump come mainly from an individual named jdemaris. he seems like a very knowledgeable person and very consistent with his statements that armed with the service manual, reasonable intelligence and mechanical ability, a pump “rebuild” would equate to not much more than a seal kit in the price range of about 50-85 dollars and a few hours. So I have to ask, does a core and 800 dollars justify that? That’s a tough one to answer, but if all I am lacking is a drive shaft, and I can turn one out, get the seal kits that I need for it and it works, why would I not try, then maybe I could help others with that knowledge, or for that matter, turn out a few more and help those in the same position I am in? Potentially seems like a win-win.
When it comes to warranty work, would you put it on the pump supplier to enforce their warranty to the end user? If the supplier doesn’t take note of when and where they sent a pump and blindly take them in without inspecting them, then I would agree with that yes, people are going to try and get over on the supplier and as the guy who rebuilds them for the supplier, there is nothing you can do about that. I relate this to one my other jobs, if I supply a panel with plcs & vfds in it and the contractor allows it to sit outside, doors open or allows the electrician to put conduit holes in it and it rains, soaking my panel ruining my supplied electronics, I don’t warranty that, nor will I go out and do a panel inspection for free. When I load a panel on the shippers truck, who entered an agreement with my customer and not me, and they drop it or damage it, that’s not my warranty. If I find an electrician who wires a 500 horse pump in a 3-phase configuration that the name plate does not support, my warranty is over. That kind of information is plainly stated, and I have had my share of legal battles regarding issues like this, I have not lost any of them due to my ability to stand behind my work and protect myself from knuckleheads. I have ------ off my share of contractors and engineers, and I have only gained customers because of the way I do business and conduct myself, even the ones that have fought with me still respect me for what I do and have done and don’t look backward at our disagreements. i don’t enjoy the winning feeling though because I hate fighting like that. So some interesting things can be said about that warranty issue vs what is supplied or a core exchange, makes for an interesting conversation that very seldom do two people ever see eye to eye and maybe would be better for a different post, sorry about my tangent there…trying to stay focused here.
As far as using 6 cylinder components I had no intention of using any, I had also not thought about grabbing some junk yard special out of a yanmar 4 cylinder and thought that trying it on my hoe was a good idea as well, just wanted to clarify that.
I would like to ask you though Bob, given the supplied information would you find it a better idea to go with the same pump as was supplied on the hoe or upgrade to a newer jdb? I am interested in your thoughts on both pumps.
one of the drawbacks of postings, you think it, you type it and it seems correct, then other people read it and go wtf? try speaking english or having a complete thought haha
Thanks
