Mounted Cultivator

lkozak

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I saved this cultivator from becoming part of the bush today. Seems to to mostly complete, missing a few shovels, believe the lift arms are missing to. Wondering what model it would be, what tractor it would fit. It seems a little large for an A or B tractor. I'm wondering if its meant to fit a 630 or 730 tractor. More or less just looking for information on it. I put a picture up of a casting number hope this helps.
 
I don't see any picture. I can tell you that Dads four row front mount is right in the shed where he parked it. It was last used on a 2510. Prior to that it was on a 50.

I just finished finally cleaning up all the old "ABG" pieces from two rows we kept around as bean pullers. They were last used on 2510 tractors. So lots of continuity in usability there. We jumped right over the 20 and 30 series two cylinders.
 
Didn?t realize the pictures didn?t post. I?ll try again
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Looks similar to a model 400. Model of tractors it will fit will be determined by which quik-tach it has. With correct quik-tach it could fit New Generation tractors such as 3020/4020 with tricycle frt axle.

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Also would this have the rear shovels as well? To work up where the tires have driven over? It appears that the front parts are mostly there. Missing the lift arms and maybe a shovel or two. In the manual picture it appears to be mounted on a late A,B,G? Reason I'm wondering is I have a 1950 B with the power lift wondered if it would have enough power to be able to use it or do I have to start the search for a bigger tractor with a power lift?
 

Yes cultivators had rear wheel track shovels. I've heard of 400 cultivators being utilized on model B tractors but remember model B had no factory power steering.
 
Yes, there likely should be some rear "scratchers". From the pictures, it looks a lot like a 400 as Jim said, but has two things that have me second guessing that. The small wheels are all steel, the 400 we had had tires with rubber on them. Also, the tractor mounts, from what I can see, don't have the "QuiK tach" mount system plates. If you posted a shot of the center mounts, we could tell you more.

It was likely made for the letter series tractors, like an A or G. It could fit your B, but the center (depending on what it looks like) might need a bit of modification, as the frame of a B is a bit narrower than an A or G. It would not take much to make it fit.
 
I run a 4 row set on 30" rows on a 49 B. and all front mount can be made to work unless it happens to be a 6 row unit then you need the bigger tractor.
 
(quoted from post at 07:00:33 10/30/17) Yes, there likely should be some rear "scratchers". From the pictures, it looks a lot like a 400 as Jim said, but has two things that have me second guessing that. The small wheels are all steel, the 400 we had had tires with rubber on them. Also, the tractor mounts, from what I can see, don't have the "QuiK tach" mount system plates. If you posted a shot of the center mounts, we could tell you more.

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Maybe this photo will clear up your statement about metal gauge wheels. I've seen model 400 cult. with both steel or rubber gauge wheels. IIRC Quik-tach was an option & without it the frt frame was bolted directly to tractor frame & front stabilizer rods bolted to tractor frt pedestal studs.

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How much are you going to use it?

I had one on a 60 and it's alright in flat ground, but hills are a problem. I used it on 30 acres of bottom ground. Mine had shovels on double C shanks, not sweeps. As soon as the hills came out of CRP, I bought a 725 and put it on a 4430.

To run a 4 row cultivator on a B, you'd have to have a pretty flat farm, light soils, and narrow shovels. Like Jim said, it's gonna make steering difficult. You'd be much happier with it on a 60 or 70 with power steering. A 620 or 720 would be even better.
 
Here is mine, mounted on my A. Not sure what the model no. is.
My Dad had an identical cultivator on his A for many years.
His uncle had a '49 B that he also ran with a 4 row cultivator for many years. So yes, a B will handle one.

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thanks, Jim. I learned something new- kind of surprised that Quick Tach was optional. If you look at their literature from the late 40's, you'd think they all came that way. Also helpful to see the adapters
for the G. We had cultivators on 70s, 620s, As, etc but never on the G with the frame that steps out. Now I know how that worked!

Somehow, being all no-till now, I don't miss cultivating a bit!
 
I thank everyone for all the input and information. From what I can tell the one I have is very similar to the one that was posted mounted on the model A. I can now see for the most
part what parts are missing. Mines missing the arms that would go back from the cultivator to the power lift, missing the whole rear part and some shovels and minor parts. I'd like to
be able to make it usable, just for a hobby kind of thing. If the B doesn't work then we also have a 1945 A that has a power lift as well.
 
(quoted from post at 21:45:13 10/30/17) I thank everyone for all the input and information. From what I can tell the one I have is very similar to the one that was posted mounted on the model A. I can now see for the most
part what parts are missing. Mines missing the arms that would go back from the cultivator to the power lift, missing the whole rear part and some shovels and minor parts. I'd like to
be able to make it usable, just for a hobby kind of thing. If the B doesn't work then we also have a 1945 A that has a power lift as well.

The good news is a 1945 A is gonna be pretty affordable these days. If you’re anywhere near sw wi, I have spare pipes and a few extra rear scratchers. The scratchers are optional, but are nice to have.
 

It might be a regional thing but I don't ever remember seeing an operating frt cult without the rear rigs in place. I guess it could be related to type of soil in N Central Tx.
 
I've never seen one run without rear scratchers, either. The rear rig was to keep the rear wheel from re=establishing any weeds by recompressing the soil. One of our rigs had a "center scratcher" too, that
went in middle between the rear wheels.
 
I'm from Manitoba Canada. Not to close to Wisconsin, otherwise I'd probably take you up on your offer Rocky. I do consider myself pretty lucky to be able to find one of these up here. I never see them. I can imagine how hard it will be to find the proper lift arms and rear scratchers without having to travel into the US.
 
Rocky, I'm from Canada, but you did peak my interest when you said you had spare parts for the mounted cultivator. I'm wondering if you could message me and we could talk about
the possibility of purchasing and shipping.
 
(quoted from post at 10:55:37 11/04/17) Rocky, I'm from Canada, but you did peak my interest when you said you had spare parts for the mounted cultivator. I'm wondering if you could message me and we could talk about
the possibility of purchasing and shipping.

PM doesn't work. You can email me at rocky ridge 53813 at gmail dot com.

Shipping might be brutal. The pipes are about 7 feet long, but I could send you a pic. Maybe the guy you bought it from has them leaning against the wall in the shed. You'll need arms for on the rockshaft as well. you can see the pipes and the arms in Rich's pics.
 

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