Old JD Hay wagons

Wildride47 · Apr 29, 2017

I've been looking for a used hay wagon for a few months now and haven't found much I could afford or that didn't look like it had lived a hard life. Tonight I found two "old" JD wagons advertized locally but couldn't tell what model they are. If anyone has some experience with the older gears can you recommend what i should look for or maybe look out for when I go look them over.

Thank you

Wildride47 · Apr 29, 2017

These trailers look to have 16", 6 lug auto rims and tires

coonie minnie · Apr 30, 2017

I doubt they are auto rims- if they look different than standard implement rims, and the axle beam is straight across, it is probably a JD 953 or 963. Very tough old wagons, known to trail straight.

Tx Jim · Apr 30, 2017

A photo is worth many words. Early 6 bolt rims were different than later 6 bolt implement rims on trailers.

Ray IN · Apr 30, 2017

I have just finished painting and putting new wheels and tires on an old JD gear. I like them, and this makes my 3rd
one. We uses them for hay and melons. Putting a fiberglass slat bed on it so it can be cleaned easy, as they frown on
old wood wagons for cantaloupe anymore. I found a Amish guy who deals in surplus fiberglass materials. He uses them in
his fencing business. But there are all shapes and sizes, and the bed is looking nice.

Yes, the JD wagons trail pretty good. Not too much to wear on them, and easy to keep greased.

coonie minnie · Apr 30, 2017

You are great with the photos and diagrams... I usually don't have the patience for that...

Wildride47 · Apr 30, 2017

(quoted from post at 07:47:06 04/30/17)
A photo is worth many words. Early 6 bolt rims were different than later 6 bolt implement rims on trailers.

Here are some photos, it's a lot rougher than the ad lead on. Looks like a solid design. Just not very pretty.

buickanddeere · Apr 30, 2017

It's worth it just to have the JD wheel bearing caps . iirc 1954 was the last year for those ?
With some patient comparisons with the parts book. The wagon model and even the year of manufacture within a few can be found.
http://jdpc.deere.com/jdpc/servlet/com.deere.u90490.partscatalog.view.servlets.HomePageServlet_Alt

Tx Jim · Apr 30, 2017

(quoted from post at 10:22:04 04/30/17)
It's worth it just to have the JD wheel bearing caps . iirc 1954 was the last year for those ?

1953 is last yr for cap part number S2582DW that I find.

Tx Jim · Apr 30, 2017

OOPs forgot photos.

tim s · Apr 30, 2017

The 953's were a great wagon gear, we have 10 of them with 16ft. hay beds,2 of them were bought new in 1954, I can only imagine the miles that are on them ..and the still track straight as an arrow..

Wildride47 · Apr 30, 2017

(quoted from post at 11:52:30 04/30/17) The 953's were a great wagon gear, we have 10 of them with 16ft. hay beds,2 of them were bought new in 1954, I can only imagine the miles that are on them ..and the still track straight as an arrow..

What a beautiful photo. Sure makes me wish for the first cutting in this area. I love the smell when the hay is cut. I spoke with the owner this evening and will be headed over to talk a little business. I've read a little about the 953 and 963. Haven't found that there is a data plate to tell the model. Sounds like there is a welded hole on the rear axle housing that is different on the 963. There may be some other method to tell the apart

tim s · Apr 30, 2017

I have a 963 here to restore and I can't tell the difference other than the decal...

rmcky · Apr 30, 2017

On a 963, there is a welded oval, on the front and rear of the rear axel, maybe 3 or 4 inches inboard of each end. The 963 also has a plate welded to bottom of channel drawbar (this is easily replaced or changed, the rear
axel weld, not so much)

Wildride47 · Apr 30, 2017

That's the ticket, I will get underneath the bed and check for the welds. I hope to find a plate but I'm not holding out that it would be there

Wildride47 · Apr 30, 2017

Just a random thought. If these aren't road worthy for the ride home does anyone have a recommended method to hall an old wagon home?

buickanddeere · Apr 30, 2017

there should be a model and serial number plate around the right rear axle. However most serial number plates are missing.

coonie minnie · May 1, 2017

I've only seen the data plate on the newer ones with short hubs. I have seen model number (and 1940s leaping deer) stenciling on the old ones- in about the same place the data plate was attached to the newer
ones.

Wildride47 · May 6, 2017

(quoted from post at 08:10:50 05/01/17) I've only seen the data plate on the newer ones with short hubs. I have seen model number (and 1940s leaping deer) stenciling on the old ones- in about the same place the data plate was attached to the newer
ones.

Ok, here is a puzzle gang, here is the questions and some photos. Two well used trailers made it home today. Their pretty ugly but will be beautiful when restored. So here's the question, the gears look to be 953's. No markings that I can identify, no welded "D" shape stops on top of the axels under the bolsters. The thing that has me wondering if these are really 953's is the fact both trailer tongues have the reinforced steel strip under them associated with the 963. I will need to looks for some markings on the rims and other components to determine the age and hope to find the one part that will ID the model.

Wildride47 · May 6, 2017

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