2510 hydraulics question

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Hey there,

JD 2510 Syncro here.

I have a DIY log skidding 3-pt attachment minus a winch. I bought an 8 ton hydraulic winch for the top of it.

When I went to the farm implement store to get some hoses made up the owner -- a JD man himself -- cautioned me that older JD tractors will run hydraulic [i:87d3aa162d]pistons[/i:87d3aa162d] fine but might not run a hydraulic [i:87d3aa162d]motor[/i:87d3aa162d]. He said a bale wrapper he tried to run on one of his older JDs just wouldn't work.

Anyone have any knowledge or experience with this, before I have hoses made and install the hydraulic directional control valve (which I'd then be unable to return)?

Should I stick to an electric winch off the battery?

Thanks!
 

Welcome to YT
Closed center hyd's such as your 2510 can tend to cavitate(run out of supply oil) when utilized on orbit motors. Does your 2510 have the 4 piston or higher capacity 8 piston frt hyd pump?
 
We used a hydraulic motor to run an auger from
under the grain bin.
This 2510 had the 8 piston pump and was power shift.
 

The story is half correct . Connecting the hydraulic load properly to the tractor is vital.
Routing the oil return like direct to the transmission case will starve the front pump.
Waterloo tractors if connected to the proper scv and if the valve hasn't been turned to "single acting cylinder " . They will not starve the front pump. This should be the case with the 2510. From the factory the 2510 had a scrawny 4 piston 1000 series pump with only 6gpm with the engine reved up iirc . The parts book lists an 8 piston 2000 series replacement pump with approx 23 gpm iirc.
The Dubuqie and Mannheim tractors if using a high flow load through the SCV needs the piping kit to route the return oil to a ported transmission oil filter cover.
From the factory the Dubuqie and Mannheim SCV returns oil direct to the tenamission sump. Fine if just operating a cylinder to rotate a snowblower chute or lift a cultivator at the ends of a field . No good at all to operate a log splitter, loader, rock picker, auger etc.
 

Thanks. Yeah, I asked a diesel mechanic and JD guy and he said I'd be getting 10 gpm max. I guess I have the smaller of the two.

Thanks all of you. I'll guess I'll just put my 8 ton hydraulic winch on Craigslist and stick with an electric.
 
(quoted from post at 09:56:51 08/16/16)
Thanks. Yeah, I asked a diesel mechanic and JD guy and he said I'd be getting 10 gpm max. I guess I have the smaller of the two.

Thanks all of you. I'll guess I'll just put my 8 ton hydraulic winch on Craigslist and stick with an electric.

The hydraulic flow should be good enough for a logging winch but slow for a loader or log splitter .
 
What pressure and flow does the hydraulic winch need? The tractor may not be able to power the hydraulic motor continuously, but how do you plan to use it? If you will only need to use it for a minute or two at a time it may be OK. Can you back up to a log, wrap a cable around it, winch up one end off the ground and skid it away, or do you need to winch logs up a long hill?
 
(quoted from post at 15:42:32 08/16/16) What pressure and flow does the hydraulic winch need? The tractor may not be able to power the hydraulic motor continuously, but how do you plan to use it? If you will only need to use it for a minute or two at a time it may be OK. Can you back up to a log, wrap a cable around it, winch up one end off the ground and skid it away, or do you need to winch logs up a long hill?

The 2510 will run a 5 to 6 gpm flow hydraulic load for as long as the engine will run.
If it takes 3 minutes to retract the entire length of the cable with a 6gpm pump instead of 1minute with a larger pump , I could not get too concerned .
As far as tons of pull on the cable it will be the same with a 6gpm 2250psi pump as it would be with a 25gpm 2250psi pump.
 

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