2120 Tractor

ET

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A friend of mine is looking at a 2120 tractor. I see it was built from 69-72. It looks like a Canadian version of the old 2020 but the 2020 was built longer than that. It's rated for 60 pto hp. Does anyone have any input?
 

You hit the nail on the head as 2120 & 2020 are about the same. Headlamps are located on outside frt of hood on 2120 vs fender mounted on 2020. 2120 had 3.6L diesel engine vs 2020 had 3.3L diesel.
 
Hard to get parts for from a dealer.They don't have parts books for them. Most of them I've seen were brought into the country by jocky's to sell to unsuspecting novice tractor buyers.
They auction at archbold ohio several years ago had new ones with the serial number chiseled off. They had different hydraulics than the American made ones.
 
(quoted from post at 18:29:38 11/19/15) Hard to get parts for from a dealer.They don't have parts books for them. They had different hydraulics than the American made ones.

Ray
IMHO in the age of the computer any ""competent JD parts person"" could look up part numbers for a JD tractor built for European sales. Any JD experienced parts person that can't look up the parts is LAZY. Yes some breakaway couplers are different but closed center hyd's are closed center hyd's no matter which side of the BIG POND one is standing.

This is coming from an old geezer that spent many hrs standing behind a parts counter at a JD dealership.
Jim
 
(quoted from post at 19:29:38 11/19/15) Hard to get parts for from a dealer.They don't have parts books for them. Most of them I've seen were brought into the country by jocky's to sell to unsuspecting novice tractor buyers.
They auction at archbold ohio several years ago had new ones with the serial number chiseled off. They had different hydraulics than the American made ones.

Ray . You are spouting a complete and total load of lies. The parts book is online and the parts are at ANY JD parts counter .
What different hydraulics?
 
(quoted from post at 16:25:30 11/19/15) A friend of mine is looking at a 2120 tractor. I see it was built from 69-72. It looks like a Canadian version of the old 2020 but the 2020 was built longer than that. It's rated for 60 pto hp. Does anyone have any input?

The 2120 was a world wide tractor sold everywhere except the U.S. Americans missed out, that's all.
Built in Mannheim Germany with engines from Saran France .
Before you get all pouty . Many some 20, 30 and 40 series sold in the U.S were built in Mannheim. All late 40 series , 50 and 55 utility tractors were Mannheim built.
Some of the large rowcrop tractors to this day are built in Mannheim.
 
So it's a 2020 with a little better engine. I went and looked at it, it has the same radial piston pump as the tractors sold in the us. The remote control valve looked like a much simpler design. It runs like a top but the sheet metal looks like it wore a loader once. It suffers from utility tractor steering play, but that's not hard to fix.
 
I can't find anything good to say about any of them,no matter which side of the ocean they were built on...and I'm not pouting,,I just don't like them...
 
The ones I've seen have open center hydraulics and you can't use a remote outlet. A neighbors tractor was at JD for a month trying to make one work. The hydraulic pump on a 2040 is about 4 inches square and no rebuild parts are available. The ps won't work unless you run the engine at 1000 rpm or more. Go to any auction and see what that import junk sells for.
Parts might be at every parts counter in Canada where they were sold , but not in the us.
 
A 2020 is a lighter tractor smaller plantaries brakes etc. My Dad bought a 2120 new in 1973--there are thousands here in Canada--- and that tractor has done every job imangiable on our farm. Closer to 55 HP at RATED PTO speed,easy to get parts for. I have over 11,000 hours on it now, sleeves and pistons and a hydraulic pump at 10,000 hours. Hard starter in cold (10F) but I cannot say enough good about it. Later models will have the independant oil engaged PTO.

Ben
 
A 2120 will command a higher price here than any comparable tractor of the same vintage Most were sold with the large displacement pump, all closed centres, 12 gpm pump,power steering that can be operated at idle with one finger, even with a loader on the treactor. My owners manual shows some images of a 2030 so they must be similar. Location of lights was dependent upon the tractors destination; Canadian models have lights on the fenders along with orange/red flashers also on the fenders.

Ben
 
I spent 21 years behind a John Deere parts counter. We had one 2120 in our area (Central Oregon)....customer bought it from a tractor jockey. We were using microfiche at the time, and the updates Deere sent us didn't include a 2120. We just ordered a fiche from Deere and wrote the customers name on it and saved it everytime we got an update. When the computer system came, it included all the tractors such as this that were not marketed in the United States. Parts were mostly the same, but there were some differences.....whenever we ordered some of these different parts, we never had any trouble getting them from Deere. As far as reliability and dependability, pretty much the same as any other utility tractor of that era. Around here, utility tractors seldom got worked very hard, and we didn't see the quantity of the issues Tim sees in his area....but they were lurking.Hope this sheds some light.
 
(quoted from post at 21:09:16 11/19/15) The ones I've seen have open center hydraulics and you can't use a remote outlet. A neighbors tractor was at JD for a month trying to make one work. The hydraulic pump on a 2040 is about 4 inches square and no rebuild parts are available. The ps won't work unless you run the engine at 1000 rpm or more. Go to any auction and see what that import junk sells for.
Parts might be at every parts counter in Canada where they were sold , but not in the us.

Ray
2040 with a small pump(open center hyd's) was actually built in Mannheim for North American sales. It appears the hyd pump is still available from JD. I remember selling them when they were new. I think they're good utility tractors. In this day & age some so-called JD technicians don't know how to repair anything just "replace parts" same as with lazy parts personnel. This is coming from a former JD dealer service manager.

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(quoted from post at 22:09:16 11/19/15) The ones I've seen have open center hydraulics and you can't use a remote outlet. A neighbors tractor was at JD for a month trying to make one work. The hydraulic pump on a 2040 is about 4 inches square and no rebuild parts are available. The ps won't work unless you run the engine at 1000 rpm or more. Go to any auction and see what that import junk sells for.
Parts might be at every parts counter in Canada where they were sold , but not in the us.

Ray . Get back to us when you know something. The Dubuqie built 820 and 830 were also built with open Center hydraulics .
We are talking about a 2120 which has closed Center hydraulics .
You are lying with the statement claiming that US dealers can not obtain parts . Other than a different model number on the hood and a serial plate saying Mannheim . Almost all parts swap from the Mannheim to the Dubuque version of the same tractors .
 
(quoted from post at 09:10:29 11/20/15)
The Dubuqie built 820 and 830 were also built with open Center hydraulics .

Sorry b&d but the 3 cyl 820,830 & 2040 sold new in USA were all built in Mannheim. I remember traveling to the port in Houston to pick them up.
 
(quoted from post at 12:08:02 11/20/15) Boy,you must be on a really big drunk tonight! Hope you feel better tomorrow.

Actually tonight I am on stage for the 2nd of 12 productions of Peter Pan a Panimine , playing " Big Chief " . We do usually go out for a brew afterwards .
 
(quoted from post at 10:31:41 11/20/15)
(quoted from post at 09:10:29 11/20/15)
The Dubuqie built 820 and 830 were also built with open Center hydraulics .

Sorry b&d but the 3 cyl 820,830 & 2040 sold new in USA were all built in Mannheim. I remember traveling to the port in Houston to pick them up.

Well darn, Sorry about that. I was wrong about the manufacturing plant for the 820/830/840/2040.
 
Why don't you get back to us when you know something? Where have I heard that before???
 
ET, I've had a 2120 since 2001 and love it, I've put about 3500 hours on it and the tractor has been great. Parts book is viewable on jdparts and I've never had a problem getting parts. Only bad thing I can say about it is cold starting is not its strong point, it has a block heater and thermostart and it helps. I would not hesitate buying another one!!
 
My buddy and I looked the tractor over and decided to pass they were asking $5500. The steering wheel had one and a half turns of play in it. The bell crank on the front end needed bushings and the valving under the steering wheel needed re-shimming. The hood had been crushed from loader use and straightened with a sledge hammer. The sway blocks were missing and load shaft washers and end sleeves were missing, three point adjustments were welded fast. That's the short list of what we could see. On the good side it started and ran real well and the main hydraulic pump didn't leak.
 

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