Loader on two cylinder tractors

DavidT1

Member
Hello,
How many of you out there run loaders on your two cylinder tractors for moving snow and or haying? How do you like it and how hard was it to get use to doing with the hand clutch? Any pictures of course is always great. Thanks!!
 
I had a #45 on a model 50. Better than a shovel ! I mostly used it for a hoist. Got a 4020 gas with a 158 loader and now that's a loader tractor !!!!
I like my 2 cyls. but I am spoiled by more modern machines !
 
The 45 was good for breaking studs off the axle housing. With the hand clutch, hyd lever, and steering wheel being operated by 2 hands is a chore. Kinda like me with my left broken arm in a sling, trying to run the 8420 on a grain cart in mud. It would have be worse if it had been my right arm since I am right handed also.
 
I have a JD #45 on my 520. That was my primary snow removal system for 15 or 20 years I guess. Now it is my backup system as I have a Western contractor grade V-plow for my F-250 super duty. The only part of me that got cold moving snow with the 520 was my feet. The activity kept my upper torso plenty warm.
 
I've had a 45 on my 1955 50 for 10 years and love it. I move dirt, gravel, pull posts, unload lick tubs and pull small stumps. I like it better than my 260 on my 2940 because I can see the front of the bucket. But for a BIG loads of dirt.....the 260. The 260 is much better at removing the rain washes in my driveways.
 
I grew up running this 70, feeding cattle and putting up hay. It was always used as a loader tractor and was stored inside. It is retired now and only used to move tree branches and other minor loader work.
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In the township I grew up in only ONE farmer had a loader on a 2-cyl. Putt-putt. Because that's all he
owned, only guy with a JD mounted picker too. Everybody else had mostly IH/FARMALL'S for loader tractors,
several Allis-Chalmers, some Case utilities, and an Oliver or two.
 
As mentioned below it can be done. We had quite a few old As with #45 loaders around. Definitely better if you have live hydraulics and power steering, but yu learn to live with what yu have. and it beats the heck out of filling a spreader by hand
 
I have a 45 loader on a 630. Don't get enough snow in Southern Illinois to need it, but I move and feed all of my round bales with it. I'm happy with it, but I sometimes feel like a one-armed wallpaper hanger when I get in a tight spot. I moved my bucket trip lever to the left side, and it seems to be easier to handle. 630 has power steering - would be tough without it. Son has a hydrostat Kubota with a loader - no comparison. He can work circles around me.
 
I have a Stanhoist loader on my 1945 A. No live hydraulics or power steering, not an ideal set-up, but it is so much better than a shovel. Can't tell you all the other stuff I've used it for over the years but it is probably the handiest tractor on the place.
 
Here is a Kelly 800 on my 730. Pic was
taken this past weekend. I posted on
here a few months ago looking for a
loader for my 730. Found a couple of
the JD 48 with the universal mounts but
for a little more money I found this
and it hasn't seen decades of abuse.
Not the most friendly to use on a 2
cylinder but you can get used to it and
it does get the job done....
 
I gotta 310 se and a 4020 with a 148. My 50 with the loader is still my favorite loader! We as humans are programmed to adapt and overcome.
If you are any kind of equipment operator at all you will adapt to the hand clutch and no power steering!
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Great pictures! I can almost feel the snow going down my neck. Those should be framed and sold to every JD fan.
 
I have a 45 loader on my 50 A and a snow bucket. The replies above are pretty much what
I would say also. My next challenge and question to you guys: I want to use it with my
No. 5 mower. I THINK if I put a shut off ball valve on each of the side exit hydraulic
outlets between the PowrTrol and the slide quick-connect original hydraulic hookup, I
will be able to hold the 45 loader arms mid way up (bucket taken off..I do NOT have
power steering!) I have my No. 5 set up to lift by hooking the old foot lift arm to a
cultivator lift arm on the rockshaft on the left side, and use the PowrTrol. It works
with the 45 loader engaged, but I do not want to have the loader lifting and dropping
when I lift and drop the mower!

Any thoughts? Anyone done this before?

THANKS!!

LEN
 
This is my 1935 B. My grandfather bought it used in the 1930's in desperate need of a overhaul. My uncle was in a bad motorcycle accident and could do nothing else so he cultivated all the corn 3 times and grandpa said it was the cleanest corn they had ever had. Somewhere along the line a loader was added. As long as I can remember it had the loader cleaning up manure, digging dirt to put back in the sheds (until Dad concreted them, and pushing snow. It had fluid in the tires (one rim is rusted off) and chains on it all winter and spring. It was used ALOT and after Dad died in 1970 I used it for the next 8 years until I bought a 148 loader for my 4010 and now on my 1972 4020. The B had live hydraulics run by a belt off a pulley on the fly wheel, foot operated controls, and was an extremely handy machine. In the winter when it was very very COLD you could slowly count the 'Bangs" as the B struggled with the thick oil and would sometimes have to take the belt off the pulley and put it back on when the B warmed up.
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If you have good enough rated ball valves ?
I used a manual push-pull selector control valve on my 50 and it worked to hold the loader up and then use the 3 pt. I had it laying around from another project. IIRC it was 4 ports so I blocked off 2 of them.
 
I welded a chain hook to a short piece of steel and bolted it to the top pair of holes on the steering pedestal of my 630. I hook a 1/4" chain to the loader frame and hang it from the hook, then disconnect the loader hydraulic lines so something else can be connected. A poor man's way of doing things - cheap and functional. I've always dreamed of adding a dedicated valve for the loader, but it hasn't risen to the top of the list yet.
 
You didn't know about the JD B for left handed farmers??? My sister-in-law put that on digital and reversed it somehow.

Does it look better now? Plus another pic of the B with rubber on it. I can't tell if that is my brother or me driving. My uncle said my Dad was to dam lazy to get off the tractor to start it. He would just reach down and start it if the engine killed itself. It was very easy to start even when my brother and I were small. Just set it at 1/2 throttle with the choke, turn it over 1 cylinder, shut off the choke, and pull hard and it took right of. In cold weather a little choke would keep it running until it warmed up some. I also have a 1936 B that sat 4 months over winter. I turned on the gas, used the above procedure, and it took right off!
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Had a loader on a 630 for 39 years. Put thousands of hours on it. Hydraulic levers were on the left side beside the steering wheel so I could feather the loader and run the clutch at the same time. My left leg held the steering wheel. Didn't have to run the engine fast to have full hydraulics unlike some other tractors with open center hydraulics. Before the 630 loader days we had a Caswell loader on a 51 A for a little over 20 years. The loader is on a foot clutch tractor now and it is handier but not by all that much. During the heavy loader years with the 630 I had the clutch apart once a year, easy job on a two banger, not as easy on a foot clutch tractor.
 
Not a two cylinder Deere but I have a trip bucket Case 101 on a narrow front SC Case with a hand clutch, no live power. It can be done but it's slow and you'll have arms like Popeye if you run it all day!
 
I use a third party loader on a '48 B wide front for hauling logs, dirt, and snow removal. It actually makes clearing snow fun, something I previously thought was impossible. It became even more fun once I put the live hydraulic pump on. My loader (Paulson brand) looks a lot like the one in the top picture posted by ben70b, above.
 

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