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Problem Reattaching Hydraulic Line to Hose on JD 2130

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Charles Branch

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Today while I was working in the woods I apparently snagged a hydraulic line on a privet root and pulled it loose from the hose. I think it is the short hose that connects to the oil cooler section of the radiator (the red arrow in the image). The white arrow shows where the line enters the transmission housing. I've tried everything I can think of, but just can't get the line back into the hose. I removed the hose clamp, and the hose is loose enough, but I can't get the metal tube to slide into the hose far enough to even try to put the clamp on. From the image it looks like the hose extended at least an inch onto the line, but I can't get it on more than about 1/8 inch, and it slips off as soon as I let it go. Are there any tricks to getting the line on? I thought about trying to bend it forward a little to line up better, but I'm not sure that would be such a good idea.
NOTE: You can't really see the hose itself in the image. Click on the link below for a closeup showing the hose, and showing how the tube looks like it doesn't align very well with the hose.
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Closeup of tube and hose end
 
I did try loosening it at the radiator end to
make a little room, but it was so tight that I
was afraid I might break off the radiator
connection and find myself in deeper trouble.
Maybe it will look better in the morning.
 
Hi
Its a job to tell from the picture and your description, but it looks to me like that steel line is maybe bent back where the lines curves at the transmission end, as well as the bend along under the motor, i can't tell if thats the same line thats off or the other one really.
if its pushed the bend back that's why it could be to short as well.
 
Can you install a longer length of hose as a temporary fix until you can straighten or replace the steel line?

Steel has some spring back (elasticity), it has to be bent past where you want it to end up.
 
I think you're right. I thought yesterday about trying to bend the tube to make it line up better. I could try a piece of tubing over the end to try to bend it there. I can also get a pry bar between the tube and the transmission to bend the tube at the other end, but I'm afraid to do that. I finally decided to sleep on it and see what some of you thought before possibly making things worse. I can also see a dent in the line at the red arrow. It looks to me like it's old, but that's hard to tell. I'm wondering if the tube is obstructed enough to interfere with flow of fluid to the radiator. The dent is shown better in the link (red arrow). The link also shows where the line exits the transmission (white arrow). I finally decided that I really ought to just take the whole line off and take it to a dealer, but I'm not sure how to remove it. It looks like the two tubes are retained by a plate (blue arrow in the link) that is attached by a bolt just above the blue arrow, but surely that's not the only attachment.
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Closeup of dent and attachment
 
I did a search on the John Deere site at the link below. Searching for the 2130 took me to a German PDF file, which showed the line, but did not give a part number. Doing a search for the 2030 took me to an online search where I found what looks like possibly the part (item 12, Part number AL28957). I'll check to see if it's even available, but I'll bet it's expensive. Can I safely remove the line by just removing the bolt that holds the plate (Item 11 in the linked image)?
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John Deere Parts WEB Site
 
I guess I have answered my own question thanks to the friendly John Deere dealer in Arab,AL. Apparently that is the correct part, and it's readily available and not all that expensive. I guess I'll go ahead and remove it, try to bend it out a little, and if I mess it up, just order a new one. With a little luck maybe I'll be back to pushing up privet by the time the incoming rains soften them up.
 
Well, I applied all my feeble muscle to a pry bar at the transmission housing and got the tube to bend enough to get it back onto the hose. Then I noticed that fluid was dripping from under the transmission and gushing when I applied the left brake. Closer inspection revealed that the left brake line was broken off at the bracket under the transmission and at the fitting where it entered the left brake housing. I guess that whatever pulled the hydraulic tube off must have ripped the brake line off at the same time. Rather than try to patch it, I ordered a new one, which should fit better than anything I would jury rig. Until it arrives I'll just plug the broken one, since I rarely even use the brakes on my flatland anyway.
 
Please order and install 4 of item #7 (spacer) to tie these lines together and minimive vibration.They may look trivial but they are important.
 
(quoted from post at 02:35:01 09/13/14) Please order and install 4 of item #7 (spacer) to tie these lines together and minimive vibration.They may look trivial but they are important.
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Mine doesn't seem to have any of these installed. All it has are a couple of hose clamps around the three tubes. I found a pretty good picture of the R49076 spacer/isolator, but it's not obvious to me how it is installed. Can you point me to any pictures of them as installed?
Thanks for the suggestion,
Charles
I did spend about three hours this afternoon uprooting large privet plants with my grapple rake, and everything is holding together so far.
 
Ditto what Tech 7 stated about installing the 2 spacers(R49076). I have no photo of spacer installed but many have been omitted when a tractor has be split. The spacers just fit between the 3 lines then install a hose clamp around the lines & spacer.
 
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