Got the K6 mounted on the 4430 today - pics

rockyridgefarm

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Went to Momence IL friday and picked this up. It was an auctiontime item. Seems to fit alright. Still not sure whether I like carrying the load that far out...

It came with braces to the rear axle. They'd been buggered up, and they interfere with the deluxe steps. It seems the side brackets are strong, but maybe I should mount the braces anyway?


Now to decide on grapple for the bucket or bale spear.


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If you are a bigger guy, deere does offer a longer reach door stop that makes the opening a little wider between the door and the rear loader frame. chris
 
Jim,

I didn't check the torque, But I did make sure they were tight...

Larry,

Sorry I didn't get your 158, but I think I'm gonna be happy with this one. Keep me in mind if you come across a 1977 4030 or 4230.

Matthies,

I haven't run into a problem yet, but thatnks for the heads up.
 
Hi You will know you should of put the braces
on if you snap the tractor in half at the
clutch housing. Kinda think with the leverage
of that loader past the mid point of the
tractor, the front might try lifting the
backend, the weight is then transferred wrong
through the chassis/transmission casings. Have
seen other make tractors crack or snap bell
housing castings in half without the extra
braces.
Allied up here in Canada didn"t fit them at
one point. now I think they are standard on
most tractors, even with the massive mid mount
frames of the 4 digit series loaders.
If it was me I would say it"s cheap insurance
to fit them. A big grapple with wet manure in
will probably stand that tractor on it"s nose
or try pretty hard to do it, if it"s ballasted
up on the rear pretty good. It may take a while
to fatigue and break. or it might never break.
There"s just no way of telling for sure.
Regards Robert
 
With the bucket that far forward you may really wish you had front wheel assist. Of course that can be overcome some by lots of weight hanging on the rear 3-point
 
I think I will mount the braces. They came with it. It'd be pretty frustrating to break the tractor in half, and then be sitting there thinking, "I wonder if those braces would have prevented this." I'll just have to figure out how to move the steps out a bit.


So, grapple or two tine bale spear?
 

As much as I'm supposed to be a Deere guy I wish I had bought a K6 some years ago when I bought my 158. I could have had a new one for the price of the used JD and I think they are easier to put on and take off.
 
Dunno how easily a 158 mounts, but this one has a large alignment pin on the mounts that automatically aligns the bolt holes when you drop it on. I think the K6 has a stronger mount to the tractor and better stands. That doesn't matter if you never take it off, but I will be. Often.

Basically, you drive into the bracket on the front, hook up the hydraulics, and tip the bucket to drop the arms down. Then you install 6 bolts (3 per side), lift the arms, and place the stands in the storage position.

Neighbor has a Westendorf WL42 that is a little faster because you don't have to fiddle with bolts or stands, the frame is the stand.
 

A 158 require four bolts, an alignment punch and a pry bar on each side. As for mounts, it pretty much ends up on the ground when you back out of it.
 
By your description, this Koyker has a lot better mounting system. With that aligning pin on the mounts, the bolts just drop in with no prying required.

The 158 has a stand available, according to jdparts. Are you saying it doesn't work well, or do you not have one?




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