Breaking rear wheels loose

tim s · Aug 21, 2014

I was setting the wheels out on a 4430 today, they were "extra" rusty, this is my method:

4020guy · Aug 21, 2014

Hi Tim. Where is the bfh? Is the jack top directly on the load shaft or near by it? How many whacks did it take and if a person were to sand the wedges and never-seize them would that prevent the wheels from staying tight? Thanks for taking the time to show us....Ron

FBH44 · Aug 21, 2014

yep, showing us the best way, probably also thwe safest way, is to use a skid-loader..

Cliff Nelson · Aug 21, 2014

Cleaning up the rust is ok but never seize may cause problems.

41B-boy · Aug 22, 2014

Tim,
do you relax the pressure from the ram and rotate the tire at any part during the press off?
I did something similar a year ago with my B, but found I had to rotate the tire to equalize the pressure on the bearing surface in more that one place.
or is this to simply break it free, at which point it loosens itself?
Thanks for sharing good ideas.
Bob

tim s · Aug 22, 2014

On a B or A type axle it would be necessary to rotate since it"s a full splined axle. But on this the hub I remove the inner and outer bolts and remove the pinion bolt that goes through the pinion cog, this leaves you with a cone type hub had pops loose with a heavy smack on the end of the axle. You need to be ready for the wheel to come "clear" off if near the end of the axle..

41B-boy · Aug 22, 2014

Ahh, I see exactly what you're referring to. Thanks for sharing.
Bob

MSM · Aug 22, 2014

On a 3020 that we moved the wheels seasonally to mount a 237 picker,we used a single sheet of wax paper on the outside of the cones. Never had a hub stick, and the wheels stayed tight

tim s · Aug 22, 2014

Yes, I have heard of doing that but never tried it, I use some red grease on the pinion bolt and #30 oil on the hubs/axles, when lubing a place like this there are 2 ways of looking at it,, the oil surface may tighten better,,and the oiled surface may come loose..."Most of the time when a hub works loose it's from a worn hub half, or axle..The long hub halves like used on 4440's are tuff to get loose because of the long taper.

D- · Aug 22, 2014

Never had problem with never seize.
If you think about it, there's nothing to move until the bolts are loosened.

ET · Aug 22, 2014

At a deere service school I attended they said not to use never-sez on wedges because it alows you to overtighten the wedges and possibly break the cast wheel center. I do use it on the bolt threads.

tim s · Aug 22, 2014

I'm not sure I agree with them on that ....

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