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Re: JD 4020 for baling square bale hay

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tractornutjd

04-05-2014 03:24:42
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I would rather bale hay with my 730 than the 4020. The 4020 gets pushed around and burns over 5 gallons a hour (diesel) 4020 is a ok tractor, I think they are way over rated. I would only purchase a side console, our locals mega jd store can't fix dash hydro controlls. Expensive to fix. Lots of pto hourse power. If you dyno at RATED engine rpm you will get 88-90 horsepower. All thesehigh horse power claims are from overiding the governor! Power brakes that have not worn through and the rivits and grind up everything are nice. I think 4020 are on average over priced 4000 dollars. If youare goinv to spend over 10,000 for a 4020, try something newer and maybe in a different color, just a thought. I had a 97o thatwould run circle s around my 4020. Let me be clear, the 4020 is ok, but they are not the so called prodigal son that fans make them out to be

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T in NE

04-05-2014 20:47:24
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 Re: JD 4020 for baling square bale hay in reply to tractornutjd, 04-05-2014 03:24:42  
The one at work only makes 60 HP at rated speed.



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Geoff Mathews

04-05-2014 05:01:51
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 Re: JD 4020 for baling square bale hay in reply to tractornutjd, 04-05-2014 03:24:42  
I agree - the 4020 is not the prodigal son that some make out they are - a 730D is a better tractor.



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David G

04-05-2014 07:20:30
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 Re: JD 4020 for baling square bale hay in reply to Geoff Mathews, 04-05-2014 05:01:51  
I agree with Tim S, the 4020 is the tractor that turned the tide for JD. I would bet a strong majority of farms still have one around, there is a reason for it.

There is practically zero surge running a baler with the tractor.



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Tim S

04-05-2014 06:55:03
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 Re: JD 4020 for baling square bale hay in reply to Geoff Mathews, 04-05-2014 05:01:51  
I will have to disagree with you Geoff,The 4020 "IS" the tractor that turned the tide for John Deere, and has continued to provide power and use on many farms,,near every one that I have ever dynoed had a strong 100-110 hp in their stock condition, I have farmed with 720's in the past and I do appreciate them but when we went on to the 4020's it became a new and better world for us, they are still in high demand because of their strong usefulness. Auction prices are a true indicator of a tractors real value and they are always a strong price,, a 1972 in original good condition went for $28,000 at a farm auction near me a couple years ago,,there were 5 strong bidders up to the $22,000 area. I know that was just one example,, but a documented one and Larry will tell you that any good 1972 4020 will be in the $15,000 to $17,000 range ....near twice their original price. And I write this with the greatest respect for all 2 cylinders...

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Tx Jim

04-05-2014 06:41:35
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 Re: JD 4020 for baling square bale hay in reply to Geoff Mathews, 04-05-2014 05:01:51  
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I guess next thing you & TRACTORNUTJD will be bragging on is the 730 pto shaft that doesn't sit in line with the drawbar. I suppose you think that offset design makes u-joints on pto shafts have a longer life.



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tractotnutjd

04-05-2014 11:40:55
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 Re: JD 4020 for baling square bale hay in reply to Tx Jim, 04-05-2014 06:41:35  
Been using them for over 30 years. Pulsing theory is bs and never took aout a ujoint. Some people just don't know how to run them. NEVER rebuilt the ptos in 720, 730, 70,60 or the 80. Seen numerous 4020 take out the synco range pto clutch running a 3940 or equivalent chopper. Just saying 4020 is way over rated. They are ok but more problematic



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Tx Jim

04-05-2014 04:11:45
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 Re: JD 4020 for baling square bale hay in reply to tractornutjd, 04-05-2014 03:24:42  
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4020's don't command the the prices that they bring just because they are in your mind an "OK tractor". Granted a 730 D will use less fuel but with the 2 cyl engine power pulse's VS a 6 cylinder I doubt seriously a 730( 6790 to 9241 pounds) @ 59 HP will outperform a 4020(8225 to 13980 pounds) @ 95 HP on the pto pulling a sq baler.



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tractotnutjd

04-05-2014 11:45:32
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 Re: JD 4020 for baling square bale hay in reply to Tx Jim, 04-05-2014 04:11:45  
How much powerdue you need to bale hay? 730 with a 336 and have apersonal record of almost 1500 squares in on afternoon



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larryanderson

04-05-2014 04:39:54
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 Re: JD 4020 for baling square bale hay in reply to Tx Jim, 04-05-2014 04:11:45  
You wont find one much better and the good part if you can buy a nice 71/72 right and take care of it it will increase in value and that doesn't happen on many other tractors.I have many callers that would like to trade me some nice two cylinders for NewGen tractors.



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