1935 A lost oil pressure

Just got done rebuilding an early 1935 A (it has the oil pump on the side) and it had good oil pressure when I first got it running and now the little pressure indicator stick won't come up. It has only run just a few minutes total. I never heard any noise like anything breaking inside or anything. Anyone have any ideas?
 

pull the indicator off dump some oil down the hole (prime the pump) try it--- common problem one the side mount pump, I've been around
 
(quoted from post at 13:40:58 03/16/13) Check the drive coupler.
There isn't a drive coupler on this one it's the old style oil pump driven directly off the crankshaft on the left side. I put new oil pump gears in it also.
 
DaveH what is the indicaor? where you check the oil? there is oil coming out of there so not sure how I could put some in.
 
(quoted from post at 15:23:38 03/16/13) DaveH what is the indicator? where you check the oil? there is oil coming out of there so not sure how I could put some in.
ctually after I thought about it I'm betting you mean put oil in the plug below the pressure indicator (I'm a little slow sometimes). How much do you think, a few ounces or so?
 
Take the side cover off the pump and pack it full of grease. Then start it. It will prime the pump.
 
30 yesrs ago I rebuilt one for a guy and we had to prime it every time it set overnite 30 years ago----memory not so good-- I thought the indicator was bolted to the top case but maybe a plug--- but you need to get a 1/2 cup of oil down to the pump
 
Mark, I had the pump full of grease when I rebuilt it and it got pressure right away but I suppose it ran long enough so that the grease is gone. I'm hoping what DaveH said will work!
 
I have a 35 in the waiting row-- just went and looked at it ,and it doesn't have an indicator or a guage -- wonder whats up with that??
Iwent and looked again
Old age setting in---
mine has the indicator and a plug just below it might have to pull up on indicator to get oil down it?? ser #414899 close to yours??
 
Check the oil line connections, escpcially the one coming from the pump. I had a ar that kept losing oil pressure after it sat, seems like there were some packings in the line from the oil pump that were bad.
 
(quoted from post at 16:08:43 03/16/13) I have a 35 in the waiting row-- just went and looked at it ,and it doesn't have an indicator or a guage -- wonder whats up with that??
Iwent and looked again
Old age setting in---
mine has the indicator and a plug just below it might have to pull up on indicator to get oil down it?? ser #414899 close to yours??
eah mine is 415726 I think.
 
Well I tried priming the pump and added 3 quarts of oil and still nothing. Looks like I get to pull the engine cover off...
 

wondering in the extra oil lets the rods splash and foam the oil --with the cover off see if the crank dips in the oil-- should have primed though -- maybe a broken line---let us know what you find would you please I've got one to do myself (someday) do you have any extra parts?-- the rod cover on mine is broken
 
Hi Roger,
Lots of good advice on here. On my 35A the pump housing was very worn. After priming by pouring oil down the pop-up tube and cranking backwards, over filling by a gallon, and packing the pump with grease, I did get pressure for a while. The fix was to remove the gasket(s) from the pump housing so the oil didn t squeeze by the gears. You might just need thinner gaskets. I did have new pump gears. It can sit for long periods with no pressure problems. You might also check that the top of the filter canister is not deformed from overtighting. Good luck, VH
 
(quoted from post at 10:33:38 03/17/13) Hi Roger,
Lots of good advice on here. On my 35A the pump housing was very worn. After priming by pouring oil down the pop-up tube and cranking backwards, over filling by a gallon, and packing the pump with grease, I did get pressure for a while. The fix was to remove the gasket(s) from the pump housing so the oil didn t squeeze by the gears. You might just need thinner gaskets. I did have new pump gears. It can sit for long periods with no pressure problems. You might also check that the top of the filter canister is not deformed from overtighting. Good luck, VH
hose are good suggestions also. I won't be able to work on it again until at least next weekend but I will post here as to what I find out. I was also thinking I may have too much oil pressure and blew one of the oil lines out inside since I put new pump gears in and tightened up the main bearings. Not sure if that would do it but thinking it's possible??
 
(quoted from post at 08:56:41 03/17/13)
wondering in the extra oil lets the rods splash and foam the oil --with the cover off see if the crank dips in the oil-- should have primed though -- maybe a broken line---let us know what you find would you please I've got one to do myself (someday) do you have any extra parts?-- the rod cover on mine is broken
aveH not too many extra parts, I do have the transmission cover with the shifters on it that I replaced since one corner of mine was broken and welded. No rod cover though.
 
I"ve work on a couple of 35 A"s and one problem i"ve had was the pressure relief was hanging up in its bore. Had pressure on first start and run then nothing.
 
(quoted from post at 14:45:48 03/18/13) I"ve work on a couple of 35 A"s and one problem i"ve had was the pressure relief was hanging up in its bore. Had pressure on first start and run then nothing.
will check that too. Were you able to fix them somehow when they did that?
 
I got it fixed this weekend. When I put the oil pump together I used a thin layer (well, I thought it was thin anyway) of Permatex on each side of the gaskets in the oil pump to help keep it from leaking. I pulled out the relief valve and it had a couple chunks if silicon stuck to it. Cleaned it up and re-installed and had oil pressure again. If I were to do it over again I wouldn't use the Permatex again since it's too hard to put a thin enough layer on to avoid squeezing into places it shouldn't be. With new gaskets it really shouldn't leak anyway. Thank you everyone for all the help!!
 
(quoted from post at 13:24:01 03/16/13) Just got done rebuilding an early 1935 A (it has the oil pump on the side) and it had good oil pressure when I first got it running and now the little pressure indicator stick won't come up. It has only run just a few minutes total. I never heard any noise like anything breaking inside or anything. Anyone have any ideas?
Last fall I had this tractor out plowing and everything worked great. Always had oil pressure on startup and it runs perfect. Last thanksgiving I started it and no oil pressure again. I have cleaned the relief valve, changed the oil and filter, pulled the oil pump cover and put grease in the gears, installed as thin a gasket as it can be without binding, and put three quarts extra oil in it. I put grease in the pump gears and it had pressure for a few seconds then lost it again. Anyone have any ideas? The pump gears are new so that shouldn't be a problem.
 

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