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A GURU

03-05-2014 14:38:07
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Just a couple things I would add in addition to everything else that's been said, not really even related to the repair work. Truly "original" blocks do freeze bust easier that replacements, on the flat bottom. If the block has a large crescent on the bottom and no heat code on top, then it's not original, but does resist breaking a lot better. If the short intake pipe is not a "cutdown", hang on to that jewel, because they are pretty scarce, and the muffler would have been the same height.
Nice looking project. Keep the updates and the pics coming!

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SBradstreet

03-06-2014 07:59:18
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 Re: Unstyled A project in reply to A GURU, 03-05-2014 14:38:07  

here is a couple head pictures



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A GURU

03-06-2014 15:41:34
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 Re: Unstyled A project in reply to SBradstreet, 03-06-2014 07:59:18  
Your block is indeed an original, not a later replacement. The code indicates the 102nd heat for the 37 model year. Your maincase will have a similar number next to the maincase part number, A1140R. It's on the right side, below/ahead of the clutch pulley. This maincase heatcode number almost certainly will not be the same as the block, possibly not even close but it usually does have a fairly close relationship to the serial number. If you have any interest in such details, I could elaborate more.
I have been gathering serial number/heatcode number/powerlift number/misc. info, on unstyled A's (and others) for some time now (there are lots of posts in the archives). No pressure whatsoever, but if you don't mind sharing the info with me sometime, I would sure appreciate it. I can't offer much in return, other than giving you a build date estimate based on the serial number. Like I said, no pressure, and email is open if you prefer.
Love the tractor. Keep up the posts/pictures as you go

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Sbradstreet

03-06-2014 16:06:25
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 Re: Unstyled A project in reply to A GURU, 03-06-2014 15:41:34  
Thanks a ton and definetly interested in all you can offer. I'll grab them other case numbers too. My 80 year old grandfather (owner) is baffled by all the info on the internet. Especially with info from gentlemen like yourself. We do have an older 36A that I'll get the numbers off that as well if your interested. Thanks again



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A GURU

03-06-2014 16:32:47
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 Re: Unstyled A project in reply to Sbradstreet, 03-06-2014 16:06:25  
No, Thank you. The obscure kind of stuff that is interesting to me is of little interest to most folks. Guess it's the history/details/info junkie in me. I'm always looking for a clue or trying to solve a mystery of some kind. It's always good to see someone younger interested in the old tractors too. Sorry to say that I'm of no help on the actual questions that you originally asked.

I would be glad to know the info on the other one as well, and will elaborate on the heatcode, serial number connection after you post that, or email. I would be interested to know the powerlift serial numbers as well, if they are still there and legible. Those tags frequently are damaged or gone due to their location on top of the rockshaft housing. I can also tell you whether the powerlift(s) are likely originals or not, based on their number in relationship to the tractors serial number (powerlifts are frequently added/swapped from another tractor). You can have your serial numbers researched by Two-Cylinder Club, for $35 each plus shipping, but I can give you a pretty good ballpark estimate (usually within 3 or 4 days of actual build) for free. Thanks again and no hurry.

I'm also interested in the large engine/ship background. I used to be an engineer on a Mississippi River towboat years ago. We had Fairbanks-Morse OP's on one and EMD's on the other.

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SBradstreet

03-07-2014 06:49:16
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 Re: Unstyled A project in reply to A GURU, 03-06-2014 16:32:47  

rockshaft#
powertrol
case tag#

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A GURU

03-07-2014 09:58:57
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 Re: Unstyled A project in reply to SBradstreet, 03-07-2014 06:49:16  
Thanks for the pics. You can just relate the numbers without pics if you like, and email is always open if you prefer to keep it private/not jumble up the post. No matter to me either way.

Heat codes are often difficult to read from photos due to them being poorly cast. It looks to me like the heatcode is 111-37, this would equate to being cast maybe about the 3rd/4th week of March 37. The powerlift number is very clear (an exceptional tag, very nice). If I had to take a wild stab in the dark at a serial number I would say something right around 454000, but that could be off some. That would be in the range that would best match both of those numbers. Your powerlift (it's not a power-trol, just a decal) is just right and I would say is original to the tractor. Can't give a very close estimate on a build date without the SN but 454000 would be about the 2nd week of April 37. This is when model A production was at it's peak, about 114 model A's per work day.
Looks to me like you have a good "part matching" tractor. I wouldn't try to sway you either way, but my advice would be to hang onto these tractors if they mean anything sentimental to you at all. Your Grandfather having had them since the 60's, would be all it would take for me. You won't find too many folks saying they wished they had gotten rid of something their Grandpa had, years down the road : )

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03-07-2014 10:32:31
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 Re: Unstyled A project in reply to A GURU, 03-07-2014 09:58:57  

The SN: 453655
454000 is pretty damn good.
Thanks for your info.



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03-05-2014 17:29:49
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 Re: Unstyled A project in reply to A GURU, 03-05-2014 14:38:07  
I'll check the block out in the morning. You have me wondering tonight!



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