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My 830

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02-24-2014 17:56:45

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This is a story about an 830 (serial # 8302437) I bought on-line a little over a year ago. This missive isn't a complaint, just a story and the experiences one gets into with an old tractor. I live in southeast PA and the tractor came from WI. Willie Welchert hauled the tractor for me, I highly recommend his services.

The tractor has shutters and a foot throttle, both seem to be unusual options.

The seller told me the pony didn't run, but believed it was in good shape mechanically, but the distributor and carb. needed to be rebuilt. He was right. I also knew it needed tires. Still looking for a pair of 23.1 x 26" for a reasonable price.

Although the pony wouldn't run, the diesel would start with a tow of 4-5 feet, and ran fine, no smoke, funny noises, or other visible problems, although the PS didn't work.

Fist I checked the PS fluid, none on the stick, added the proper fluid and I had PS steering, at least for a day. The next day no PS steering, no fluid. Discovered the PS pump seals were leaking the fluid into the crankcase. Resealed the PS pump, and all is well.

Next was to change the engine and transmission fluids. The engine was no problem, but I did get a surprise with the transmission and rear. The trans. and rear specifications call for 3 1/2 gallons of fluid, mine had over 12 gallons on oil in it (no water). Engine oil getting into the trans. Amazing there were no leaks on the back end of the tractor, even with all that extra fluid. I wonder how many hours it takes to get that much engine oil transferred into the trans. More on this later.

In the meantime I worked on the pony, it had an Onan coil mounted externally but had no spark. I replaces the coils, points, condenser, wires & plugs. Wired John T's oil pressure switch into the ignition circuit. Then rebuild the carb.

Then I thought I was ready to start the pony, no oil pressure. Posted on this site and one suggestion was to pressure bleed the oil circuit, that's all it took.

The pony started right up, with some smoke, but ran decently, and had enough humph to get the diesel running.

Now that it ran I needed it to stop. One side had good brakes but the adjuster was frozen. The other side the adjuster and brakes had been soaked in oil for a long time. Replaced the brakes, ground the drums, and replace the oil seals and another problem solved.

Back to the engine/trans. oil transfer problem. The 830's live PTO is driven off the left side of the tractor by the engine timing gear train. To access the seal I believed was the problem the pony, flywheel and timing gear cover most be removed. Once that was done I discovered the seal on the PTO drive shaft was a hard cracked piece of old rubber.

Some gaskets are no longer available form Deere and must be made, seals and bearings are readily available from numerous sources.

Remember I said the pony smoked, I read that often the valve guides are problematic so I thought while I had the little engine on the bench I should look it to this. Sure enough the intake guides were worn, but the rest of the engine was in good shape. While reassembling the engine two valves would not adjust, the lifters were missing on two valves, one each on two different cylinders. At first I thought that maybe the lifters had rolled into the valley when I pulled the push-rods. I had done that on some V8's I'd worked on years ago. However I discovered that isn't possible on this engine. Someone had put it together without these pieces sometime in this beasts 55 year history. The push-rods were just laying in place riding on the side of the cam lobes (I did pull the cam and the lobes were fine). If only the tractor could talk. Henry at J & S Machining was able to provide the lifters and gaskets needed.

And there are many other little items that needed attention, wiring etc. I'm not a painter, I try to buy decent tractors that have a good set of work clothes on, and get they in really good mechanical condition. I'm not quite done with this one yet, but it's the journey not the destination.

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larry duda

02-25-2014 17:52:27

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 Re: My 830 in reply to Deeretails, 02-24-2014 17:56:45  
Ya, but look what you have when it"s done.

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larry duda

02-25-2014 18:03:47

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 Re: My 830 in reply to larry duda, 02-25-2014 17:52:27  

The finished product is worth it. Larry

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02-25-2014 14:32:25

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 Re: My 830 in reply to Deeretails, 02-24-2014 17:56:45  
I too have purchased a pair of Deere's that were to be operational. Mine came from Canada and were to be in very good condition. The 830 will need some attention but the pony will start the diesel and the tin is in pretty good condition but there is a puddle of fuel or oil under the rearend. The 630 Standard is suppose to be a running tractor. However, it needed the rearend lifted to be offloaded. and I have not yet heard it run. Both will allow me to work with my 80 year old father this spring to get these operational. We have all of the 30 series except for the 730. Does anyone have a 730 that they are willing to sell ?

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Fred from Mo

02-25-2014 14:10:43

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 Re: My 830 in reply to Deeretails, 02-24-2014 17:56:45  
Good job. Keep up with her and soon you will have it all new and up and running.

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02-25-2014 11:51:20

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 Re: My 830 in reply to Deeretails, 02-24-2014 17:56:45  
Glad to hear you are putting it back into proper working order. Rule of thumb as a stating point around here is take the purchase price of an old tractor and double it to put the tractor in proper working order. Sounds like you might be in for more than this not including your labor.

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Mike M

02-25-2014 05:46:28

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 Re: My 830 in reply to Deeretails, 02-24-2014 17:56:45  
Sounds like some of my adventures. The more you look the more you find !!!! These old machines are worn out and neglected that's for sure. Takes a lot to get one back right again.

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bill mart

02-24-2014 21:42:52

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 Re: My 830 in reply to Deeretails, 02-24-2014 17:56:45  
enjoyed your story. Thanks for posting. I have an 830 too. Bill

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Midnight Flyer

02-24-2014 20:10:27

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 Re: My 830 in reply to Deeretails, 02-24-2014 17:56:45  
Its good to hear there are still people out there who do thing's the right way. To me your line "It's the journey not the destination" sums up the reason I am in this hobby. I hope others who do this for enjoyment take pictures along the way. As they say,a picture is worth a thousand words. I like hearing stories like your's. To me buying a "barn fresh" tractor is Ideal. When I work each issue the tractor may have out, I know exactly what I have when its done.

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