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Re: What's the story on 4030s?

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rockyridgefarm

12-14-2013 08:56:18
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Name a job where a synchro is better'n a quad. A synchro is a good transmission. A Quad is a synchro with an extra clutch pack, giving the tractor twice as many speed options. There are no jobs a synchro can do better.
You are right that it's one less thing to go wrong on a 30 plus year old tractor. Still, the quad range is more useful.

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tomstractorsandtoys

12-14-2013 18:45:32
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 Re: What's the story on 4030s? in reply to rockyridgefarm, 12-14-2013 08:56:18  
I have to disagree. I have a dozen synco tractors and bought a 4230 with a quad and I have to say I hate that shifter. I would much sooner run a syncro.But I do love the sound guard cab with heat and air.I wanted a 4030 when I found this low hour 4230.For what you want you will like a 4030.



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12-14-2013 13:39:25
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 Re: What's the story on 4030s? in reply to rockyridgefarm, 12-14-2013 08:56:18  
Loader work. Any other work where you have to open gates getting in and out. Only one stick to contend with. Quads are better suited for field work where you can benefit from more speeds.



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rockyridgefarm

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 Re: What's the story on 4030s? in reply to D-, 12-14-2013 13:39:25  
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Setting aside the fact that a skid steer is far better for loader work in most situations, the quad range is still better (though not as good as a power shift). The Synchro pretty much allows you two gearing options forward and reverse(3, 1r and 5, 2r) with one clutching. The quad gives you three ranges with two gears for one clutching (a1, a2, a1r, a2r, b1, b2, b1r, b2r, c1, c2, c1r, c2r), and faster shifting between ranges. The extra 2 seconds it takes to shift a quad into park is well worth having the ability to go a bit faster in the field with the option to drop a gear when the going gets tough.

There's only 1 reason to by a synchro range in a 30 series - they're cheaper.

We're gonna have to just disagree on this one.

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Tim S

12-14-2013 09:05:10
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 Re: What's the story on 4030s? in reply to rockyridgefarm, 12-14-2013 08:56:18  
I agree with you rockyridgefarm, the extra speeds make for a nice way to deal with different jobs,, and the High/low planetary gives very little problems,, even after 30 years or so of service,, I rarely have one in here for a failure in that area,,when they were offered it was a bit cheaper on the invoice,,and at that time a lot of old Farmers were apprehensive about a hydraulic shift, due in part to all the bad publicity of the old Ford power shift nightmares...

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12-14-2013 13:56:58
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 Re: What's the story on 4030s? in reply to Tim S, 12-14-2013 09:05:10  
You mean select-o-matic? That fear should have been eliminated by Deere's power shift long before 30 series tractors. They might have been fearful because of IHs TA.
I have had to redo several hi-lo units over the years. Tho not as serious a fix the most common problem was that Mickey Mouse clamp on the side.
Price seemed to be the biggest incentive for synchros. You see more in the South than here.
They still are handier for loader work and barn lot work where you have to get on and off than having to work with two sticks.

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