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4020deereboy

09-01-2013 11:33:34
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Double acting has two hoses which this has . I haven't done anything for a valve yet don't have the hydraulics hooked up yet




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David G

09-01-2013 11:52:37
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 Re: loader is mounted in reply to 4020deereboy, 09-01-2013 11:33:34  
The net change in fluid should be minimal if the cylinders are double acting. I do not understand your need for additional fluid.

I would definitely use a close center valve.



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4020deereboy

09-01-2013 14:08:22
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 Re: loader is mounted in reply to David G, 09-01-2013 11:52:37  
OK I was just kinda going off from how the loader worked on my other tractor it wouldn't raise to full height unless I had 15 gallon in the sump . This loader will raise high I can stack 4x4x8 bales 5 high one bale high 6 high two at a time



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Tx Jim

09-01-2013 14:36:58
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 Re: loader is mounted in reply to 4020deereboy, 09-01-2013 14:08:22  
[quote="4020deereboy"](quoted from post at 17:08:22 09/01/13)

edit for double post
This post was edited by Tx Jim at 15:00:33 09/01/13.



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buickanddeere

09-02-2013 08:14:21
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 1530 JD Hydraulics won't work in reply to Tx Jim, 09-01-2013 14:36:58  
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Isn't there two oil control valves in the transmission? The 145psi relief valve that is accessible on the side of the transmission case which sends "excess" oil to the front pump? 2nd valve is the divert if filter is plugged unit at the trans oil filter?



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Tx Jim

09-02-2013 09:21:38
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 Re: 1530 JD Hydraulics won't work in reply to buickanddeere, 09-02-2013 08:14:21  
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Parts keys #24-27 are the filter relief valve for low pressure(150-165 psi)



This is the pressure control valve(parts key #16). It closes at about 1700 psi to ensure PRIORITY hyd oil for steering.



Then there's another trans pump pressure control valve in the shift cover on tractors with hyd pto & hi-lo.

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ss55

09-01-2013 14:50:24
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 Re: loader is mounted in reply to Tx Jim, 09-01-2013 14:36:58  
Tx Jim,
Look where the arm pivots are on that loader and compare that to most loaders. On that one the pivots are further back near the instrament panel and higher nearly at the operator's eye level when seated. Those arms may be 3 to 5 feet longer than a normal loader's arms and the pivots may be 3 feet higher.



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Tx Jim

09-01-2013 15:01:32
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 Re: loader is mounted in reply to ss55, 09-01-2013 14:50:24  
Thanks I overlooked the things you mentioned.



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Tx Jim

09-01-2013 14:36:09
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 Re: loader is mounted in reply to 4020deereboy, 09-01-2013 14:08:22  
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Man I don't understand how the loader can stack large sq bales FIVE HIGH. Back when I had a JD 158 loader on my 4255 I think it wouldn't raise hay that high. It appears the 158 stuck out further in front of the tractor than the Farmhand loader.



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4020deereboy

09-01-2013 15:44:38
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 Re: loader is mounted in reply to Tx Jim, 09-01-2013 14:36:09  
Yes sir it really will . It bout scares ya half to death when you get one that high though



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David G

09-01-2013 16:49:19
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 Re: loader is mounted in reply to 4020deereboy, 09-01-2013 15:44:38  
Be CAREFUL, that is a lot of weight that high in the air.



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4020deereboy

09-01-2013 19:53:33
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 Re: loader is mounted in reply to David G, 09-01-2013 16:49:19  
I'm thinking of making a 3 point bracket to hang my suitcase weights of the back for extra weight and traction



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David G

09-01-2013 20:28:23
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 Re: loader is mounted in reply to 4020deereboy, 09-01-2013 19:53:33  
Get a rear bale spear, will add about 1500-1800 back there.



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Tx Jim

09-01-2013 13:09:32
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 Re: loader is mounted in reply to David G, 09-01-2013 11:52:37  
I agree with David in that a double acting cylinder acts as a small reservoir replenishing spent hyd fluid as it goes through it's cycle.



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4020deereboy

09-01-2013 14:05:10
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 Re: loader is mounted in reply to Tx Jim, 09-01-2013 13:09:32  
Thanks for all your replies and info I think what I am going to do is maybe just run hoses to tractor remotes then eventually I'll get a 3 spool cs valve so that I can still have two remote hook ups on the tractor. I just hope this loader will work OK on this tractor



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