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Re: Feeling Better = Finally posted some scrap yard tractors

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rockyridgefarm

07-17-2013 04:35:34
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Pete76NY said: (quoted from post at 03:19:23 07/17/13) I don"t know about the rarity of the 60 LP...if I ever got a rare tractor I"d prolly just sell it to get some more good ol" As and Bs! But I do think that the scrap man is gonna pay the same per lb regardless of B, 60 gas or 60 LP. So roughin" it out weight wise...that makes the 60 gas about $1065, the LP about $1200 and the B about $720, the be looks like it at least has a starting point; some nice grilles, if I were close I might wave 5 $100 bills at him...but I can hear the crusher working those 60s already they gonna get expensive quick!


Scrap's $355 a ton where you are??? It's $190 here. That 60 is worth $475 in iron *here* (SW WI).

EDIT - I see what you mean. HE says scrap is worth $340 a ton (.17 a pound). That tractor doesn't weigh more than 2.5 ton with all that's missing ~$850 @ $340/ton. I bought a 60 out of a fencerow in much better shape than that one for $800 back in 2004 (still use it from time to time). Good running 60's bring $2500ish here. I find it unlikely these ol' girls are gonna be saved. Sorry, but they're just too far gone for the money.
This post was edited by rockyridgefarm at 04:45:30 07/17/13 2 times.

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rickdeere

07-17-2013 16:50:51
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 Re: Feeling Better = Finally posted some scrap yard tractors in reply to rockyridgefarm, 07-17-2013 04:35:34  
agree



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rick deere

07-17-2013 12:35:21
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 Re: Feeling Better = Finally posted some scrap yard tractors in reply to rockyridgefarm, 07-17-2013 04:35:34  
I agree I have a running 60lp j.d. with matching rear tires power steering and live pto, starts , and runs,correct gauges cant get 1375 for it.



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Jeff Sanford

07-17-2013 04:50:19
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 Re: Feeling Better = Finally posted some scrap yard tractors in reply to rockyridgefarm, 07-17-2013 04:35:34  
Where are you getting $355 a ton as a scrap price? That's not what he paid for them. That's what he's willing to let them go for. I guess you think he's going to give them away for what he gave? He's been paying $200 a ton and his asking price is WAY less than what he can get after he crushes them. He has to make money to pay his bills; lights, electric, fuel, labor, insurance, maintenance, repairs, etc. There's a minimal economic lesson there for you.

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rockyridgefarm

07-17-2013 07:01:46
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 Re: Feeling Better = Finally posted some scrap yard tractors in reply to Jeff Sanford, 07-17-2013 04:50:19  

Jeff Sanford said: (quoted from post at 04:50:19 07/17/13) Where are you getting $355 a ton as a scrap price? That's not what he paid for them. That's what he's willing to let them go for. I guess you think he's going to give them away for what he gave? He's been paying $200 a ton and his asking price is WAY less than what he can get after he crushes them. He has to make money to pay his bills; lights, electric, fuel, labor, insurance, maintenance, repairs, etc. There's a minimal economic lesson there for you.


I got 355 a ton off Pete's number and estimating the 60 to weigh 3 ton (it won't weigh 3 ton as it sits, though - too much metal is gone). But then I looked closer at the ad and see you stated .17 per pound. That's $340 a ton. I don't expect him to give it away. That's why I say he's probably gonna end up crushing it. It's just too common a tractor and that particular one is just too far gone. Now, you could strip it for parts....
Tell him you'll pay .17 per pound for just the parts you want.
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rickdeere

07-17-2013 12:37:52
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 Re: Feeling Better = Finally posted some scrap yard tractors in reply to rockyridgefarm, 07-17-2013 07:01:46  
yea Id buy some parts at 17 cent a pound.



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Lamont

07-17-2013 15:05:15
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 Re: Feeling Better = Finally posted some scrap yard tractors in reply to rickdeere, 07-17-2013 12:37:52  
Right here's the opportunity. Buy them. Strip them down. Keep what you need. Sell the parts you don't need. Take what's left over back to the scrapper. I've made some good money doing that; just not with Deere. Come on. Think about what a block sells for, then the crank, head, radiator, clutch parts, brake parts, steering parts, transmissions, etc.



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Pete76NY

07-17-2013 05:29:34
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 Re: Feeling Better = Finally posted some scrap yard tractors in reply to Jeff Sanford, 07-17-2013 04:50:19  
No I don"t need an economics lesson...and I thank you for posting the oppurtunity to see them, was just simply saying; Having restored several Bs and As, a 70 Gas which was bought in much better shape than those for a lot less, a 420 and several other colors I know what ya can get into "em!...those tractors are unfortunately headed to the crusher...(maybe the LP is rare enough to justify that beginning price I don"t know), but the others arent. I can get 3 60s in good running condition right now within 30 miles of me for between $2500-$2700!

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Jeff Sanford

07-17-2013 07:09:11
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 Re: Feeling Better = Finally posted some scrap yard tractors in reply to Pete76NY, 07-17-2013 05:29:34  
Here is what people like you don't seem to think about. You'll spend more to get parts off of tractors like these to restore something you already have rather than buying a mostly complete tractor with the same parts you need for less money and have parts left over in the end. I guess you fall into the category of people who feel like they have to say something even if it has nothing to do with the subject at hand. What you've spent in the past and what you can buy in your area now has absolutely nothing to do with me offering and/or aiding in saving these tractors from the crusher does it? I didn't ask for an appraisal, advice, current events on tractor prices in your area, or a history lesson on what you've restored and/or spent on tractors. I'm simply providing information for someone who might find these tractors to be useful. If you don't find them useful, you don't have to say anything. It's really that simple.

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Pete76NY

07-17-2013 21:07:30
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 Re: Feeling Better = Finally posted some scrap yard tractors in reply to Jeff Sanford, 07-17-2013 07:09:11  
Geez Jeff, don"t be so touchy...your buddy bought them he can ask what ever he wants, I understand people making money...if ya can"t make money then why be in business! I was simply stating that they are in no way shape or form worth what he is asking, so they will obviously be crushed. I have bought several parts tractors whole to use in my restorations, and I have scrapped some extra parts too, but I buy my parts tractors for what they are worth, not what your buddy is asking. We can compare a list or restores/refurbs we have done if ya"d like, but that would just be a pizzzing contest. The B is a $500 tractor, the 60LP is a $400 tractor, and honestly the 60 gas is a scrapper! So you would have someone pay over a grand for that 60 gas in hopes that the block is actually good? Are you reaching in your pocket to write a check for it? Again I than you for your time in putting them out for us to see...I am just sooooo sick of the old "save it from the scrapper" at a way inflated price thing! It"s been happening with plows horribly, I go to auctions and have to bid against the scrap man on plows, unfortunately the scrap value on some stuff is just more than they are really woth to anyone else. I really don"t see why you are getting so angry...they just aren"t worth what he wants...no big deal, I was just saying that he"ll be scrappin" them!

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Jeff Sanford

07-17-2013 21:45:03
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 Re: Feeling Better = Finally posted some scrap yard tractors in reply to Pete76NY, 07-17-2013 21:07:30  
I'm not angry at all. I just can't make sense out this. Heads sell for $250 to $400. Blocks sell for about the same. Pistons, rods, starters, etc. I think you're about right on the B. I figure that's about what it would weigh out at $0.18 per pound. I just think you're way off on the 60LP. $400.00? I can see that much in sheet metal, rear rims, and front wheels and haven't even touched the engine or tranny yet. There's just no logic in that price. I'll just go back to my original intent of this post and the ads. If you're interested in buying or making an offer, send me an email through the ads section. I don't need an appraisal whether it's a high one or a low one. Appraisals are useless information. Making offers and negotiating is something worthwhile.

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