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Re: Model 1020 tractor

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Tx Jim

06-16-2013 04:03:58
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D- said: (quoted from post at 20:41:14 06/15/13) Deere liked to blame facing failure on moisture and/or using other brands of oil.

Mainly it was a poor design plus probably defective facings. 2840 brakes failed early thus destroying the hi-lo "also poorly designed" due to clogged strainers. Seems replacement disks on other sizes would fail in less than a year during that time.

Deere finally decided to use the good facing on both sides of the disk to solve the problem.


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Get REAL 2840's were right behind the 2010D in 2nd place as the sorriest tractor JD built. The reason JD claimed moisture would cause brake pads to fail is because it's a true fact. Some types of "other brand" hyd oil will cause brake lining prioblems on JD tractors.
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06-17-2013 19:07:05
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 Re: Model 1020 tractor in reply to Tx Jim, 06-16-2013 04:03:58  
Yes they were poorly designed tractors with poorly designed brakes. The same as the rest of the utility tractors with the same oil.
My point was that these brakes failed with no apparent reason. They could have had low hours, kept in the dry and still fail while others with water in the trans to such an extent that it would be milky and brakes didn't fail.
Deere did finally solve the problem by putting the good facing on both sides of the disk.
Why did it take so long for them to figure that out?
I ran across a 2020 years ago that someone had put the disk in backwards and ate up the trans case instead of the piston.
Do you remember that the earlier tractors had the "paper" facing bonded to the piston and the "good" facing just floated between the trans case and disk. Even then the facing on the piston went bad. Several design changes over the years for someone to finally figure out a "good" facing on both sides would work no matter what they attributed the cause of failure to.

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06-18-2013 04:10:41
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 Re: Model 1020 tractor in reply to D-, 06-17-2013 19:07:05  
No I don't remember the amount of utility tractor brake failures that you refer to BUT I left the JD dealership in 1987 and a lot of water has run under the bridge since then.



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