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Re: old tractors vs new tractors

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Tim S

04-05-2013 07:58:54

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The newest model Deere's will be parked because of electrical problems,, long before the engines and transmission wear out, they are too complex to survive the test of time, this is why the better condition older models are bringing a premium...I have seen people loose a day or two of great planting days because no one could figure out the electrical problem,,all else was up and running, but because the fancy control features were in-operable... Deere engineers are "Drunk" on these high tech systems, then throw in the Government mandates for emissions and you end up with a very beautiful, high tech and useless machine, that will be dragged away from the planter so the 4440 can get things moving... again...

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04-05-2013 19:44:24

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 Re: old tractors vs new tractors in reply to Tim S, 04-05-2013 07:58:54  
You"re right. The Deere engineers are playing right into this EPA crap instead of telling them to shove it. Electronics in tractors is like electronics in machine tools. The iron outlasts the the "high tech". Once it fails you have a boat anchor. 11 or 13 computers in the new tractors? Really? What for? Just talked to a fellow this past week who bought a 7410 new for 90+k in "02. He said he paid for it in 5 years but now the back axle slid out last summer. 13k later he had his tractor back after 6 weeks in the JD shop. I think I would take my chances on a 4020 for 13k outright now and have better results than this.

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Big Jugs

04-06-2013 19:17:25

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 Re: old tractors vs new tractors in reply to elkcagg, 04-05-2013 19:44:24  
I'm enjoying my 5020 for exactly those reasons...I can actually fix most of it on my own. Gotta love smoke out of a Pig!!!!

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04-06-2013 19:36:44

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 Re: old tractors vs new tractors in reply to Big Jugs, 04-06-2013 19:17:25  
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I say run the old ones!

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04-07-2013 18:52:40

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 Re: old tractors vs new tractors in reply to gpuller, 04-06-2013 19:36:44  
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My name is Tanner, I run red equipment and I approve this message.

Those are some nice old pigs, love the look of the duals.

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04-07-2013 05:49:44

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 Re: old tractors vs new tractors in reply to gpuller, 04-06-2013 19:36:44  
Those are some beautiful tractors gpuller! Pretty sharp ol iron.

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