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Re: John deere tractor will not go into gear

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Tx Jim

03-25-2013 12:08:51
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4010 rowcrop or 4010 CUT?? IF it's a 4010 RC it hse nothing in common with trans other than trans pump for lubrication.




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Kasey McWherter

03-25-2013 12:47:22
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 Re: John deere tractor will not go into gear in reply to Tx Jim, 03-25-2013 12:08:51  
It"s a row crop 1962. I"ve only had it since November and the only time I got to use it, I blew the seal out of the front pump. Didn"t use it much, but didn"t have any troubles with transmission until I got it back from dealer. Can a faulty/plugged valve in the front pump keep fluid from returning to resevoir properly? and therefore shorting the transmission pump of needed fluid?



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Tx Jim

03-25-2013 12:55:35
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 Re: John deere tractor will not go into gear in reply to Kasey McWherter, 03-25-2013 12:47:22  
What type valve controls the loader? Ind 2 spool or rear remotes(SCV's)???



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Kasey McWherter

03-25-2013 12:59:22
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 Re: John deere tractor will not go into gear in reply to Tx Jim, 03-25-2013 12:55:35  
It has a John Deere 720 Loader on it with a joystick. I bought it this way, but all of the loader valves are in front and below the brakes like new tractors. It only has one set of scv's on it and they don't currently have anything plugged into them however, they were reworked at the same time as loader.



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Tx Jim

03-25-2013 13:05:42
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 Re: John deere tractor will not go into gear in reply to Kasey McWherter, 03-25-2013 12:59:22  
When one depresses the traction clutch pedal the trans pump stops turning(pumping hyd oil). that is the connection between the traction clutch & the hyd system on a '62 4010



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Kasey McWherter

03-25-2013 13:09:22
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 Re: John deere tractor will not go into gear in reply to Tx Jim, 03-25-2013 13:05:42  
What are your reconmendations for resolving this. Is it a problem with the transmission pump? Clutch? or did something get installed wrong when the front pump was rebuilt?



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Tx Jim

03-25-2013 13:45:19
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 Re: John deere tractor will not go into gear in reply to Kasey McWherter, 03-25-2013 13:09:22  
Frt hyd pump and trans have little to nothing in common. I'd call frt pump work & then trans shifing problem a coincidence back when I was a JD dealer service manager. I've seen that coincidence many times when a tractor was brought into the shop for an engine overhaul send it home and the trans or differential failed. Customer always thought engine overhaul caused other failure. NOPE COINCIDENCE

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Kasey McWherter

03-25-2013 13:54:09
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 Re: John deere tractor will not go into gear in reply to Tx Jim, 03-25-2013 13:45:19  
So if the transmission pump is the only thing in common between the shifting and operating the bucket is this my likely culprit?



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Tx Jim

03-26-2013 03:52:39
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 Re: John deere tractor will not go into gear in reply to Kasey McWherter, 03-25-2013 13:54:09  
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The trans pump oils the trans gears & shafts plus supplies oil to frt hyd pump. It's possible that depressing foot clutch pedal could cut down on lubrication causing hard shifting of syncronizers(but I've never personally witnessed this condition). Another possibility is worn syncronizers &/or shifting components. It also could be a traction clutch with incorrect free travel setting or a warped clutch plate BUT I still stand by that the problem isn't related to the frt hyd pump or it's prior repair.

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Kasey Mcwherter

03-26-2013 05:05:22
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 Re: John deere tractor will not go into gear in reply to Tx Jim, 03-26-2013 03:52:39  
I Just want to locate the problem to fix not point fingers, but I can physically use this tractor for long periods of time with zero shifting problems until the front loader is adjusted. I'll give the mechanic a call and have him pull the floor plate and look into the transmission and see what he sees. I have a feeling he might find a bad synconizer or one that is starting to wear. If everything looks to be in working order, it's time to evaluate my hydraulic preasure and fluid levels because the dealer did not refil this which means they probably didn't flush the lines and or change the hydraulic filter. I'll look at my paperwork, but i'm pretty sure it wasn't done. Thank you for your help. I'll try to post a reply when we find the problem.

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