3010 repower

aph620

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does anyone know if a 359 john deere combine engine has the same bolt pattern as a 3010 bell housing and will mate with the 3010 without an adapter plate and if there is a flywheel that a clutch and pressure plate will bolt to that will work in the 3010.
 
The problem with the 3010/20 is JD only used that engine in the tractors and used engines and some parts are hard to find.If the 329 would fit that would be great and there would be many around but I have never seen one.
 
Basically you will have to use a 3010-3020 engine.The 359 will not work as a bolt in.The 359 is a 6 cylinder,so you will need a longer hood,larger radiator,and a laundry list of other parts. . A non turboed 219-239-or 276 can be adapted in,but it is still alot of work,will require a fair amount of fabricating of frame mounts,and linkages,you will need 4030 bell housing adapter,a 2510 pump stand,new throttle linkage,new tach cable,air cleaner hoses, plus the cost of a 4 cylinder engine.
3010/3020 engines/blocks are out there,but are getting scarce. You could probably buy another rough but good running 3010 for alot less than adapting in another engine.
 
If one were really intent on doing this, contact Superior Diesel in Rhinelander, WI. they are a John Deere engine distributor. In the late 80-early 90's, they had repowered 3020s (4239 etc) and 4020's (6414) repowered tractors at some farm shows.

At one point, they made a kit, or at least how-to instructions, to install these engines in some of the NG tractors. They have maybe long since forgotten that they did, but they were out there!
 
The kits from Superior Diesel also had reinforced the frame rails due to the difference in block design. There are no rear frame mounting pads on the 300 series block. Front frame mounts are on the hyd pump mount as used on 2510. A 4 cylinder will be easier to do as the length will not be an issue.
 
I'm doing this currently in a pulling tractor, however I'm running a 7700 combine gas engine, and 4010 frame rails just used the 3010 rear for weight
 
The 2510 was a non side console 3020 with a four cylinder Dubuque 300 series engine. The 2520 was a side console 3020 with a Dubuque 300 series four cylinder.
A 2510 and in particular the 2520 is too valuable to part out in order to re-engine a 3010.
Sorry but that 3010 is either going to need a $$$ Waterloo four cylinder engine. Or give up on her.
 
A friend has a late model 3020 powershift that he put a 239 with a turbo in many years ago.He did a great job and it looks factory.I have seen some that look terrible.I am not sure if a 3010 is worth the expense.You maybe ahead to sell the 3010 as is and put that money toward a good 2510 or 3020 tractor.
 
I don't know how many they sold but I would say more than a few. The dealer I worked for installed a couple of them. I may still have a sales sheet, have to look.
 
It's my understanding that a 400 series 6 cylinder will bolt up to a 3010/20 , need longer rails , pipes , hood and stuff , but not a big job , and cheaper than a 3010/20 engine . Might need to derate the power a bit .
 

Although I'm not a big fan of the 3010 series rowcrop tractors there should be an adequate number of 300 series 4 cylinder power unit engines for a transplant.
 
It sounds like power shift transmissions are getting expensive to rebuild or impossible to find parts for. Is it practicle to transplant the entire front half of a 3020/4020 PS tractor from the engine forward to the back half of a 3010 from the flywheel back? Do the cowl, dash, hydraulic valves, etc. have to be changed also?
 
(quoted from post at 07:51:33 02/18/13) It sounds like power shift transmissions are getting expensive to rebuild Do the cowl, dash, hydraulic valves, etc. have to be changed also?

Powershifts are expensive to repair but what isn't? I think all the other components you inquired about will interchange.
 
the original engine has a hole on each side about the size of your fist in the original 3010 engines.the engines i have found run in the 3000.00 dollar range and if you have to do anything else it would be more than the tractor is worth.i just hate to part one out i know i;m silly but to me when their gone you lose a piece of what made in U.S.A stod for and it also was one of the last one made 1963 thanks to all that replied .
 
I would not do as some say and scrap it as it will be gone forever. I know the engines are hard to come by and think that a 329 or similar engine would be an interesting swap. After all this is the year 2013 and any thing can be done we put a man on the moon in the 60's so why can't a engine be swapped in in this day and age?
 
Oh you can bolt a 404/466 right into it,,but you will need to stretch the hood a bit to make it fit....
 
I found the instruction sheet for the 3010/3020 kit. 4010/4020 kit was same with 6 cyl engine.
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Seems like a John Deere kit with the crate under the motor exactly like in the picture above. Very interesting. Engine is probably a 6068 Turbo.

6068 engine would have starting motor on RH side not LH side.
 
(quoted from post at 11:52:09 10/03/17)

6068 engine would have starting motor on RH side not LH side.

Jim,
Starter can be left or right on the 300 series depending on which engine adapter plate is used.
 
(quoted from post at 03:52:09 10/03/17)
(quoted from post at 17:33:20 10/02/17)


Seems like a John Deere kit with the crate under the motor exactly like in the picture above. Very interesting. Engine is probably a 6068 Turbo.

6068 engine would have starting motor on RH side not LH side.

It is for sure a 6068 because lower side of block has bulges that the 6059 does not have. 6059 is pretty round on the side.
Plus the exhaust manifold is not from a 6059 area.
 
(quoted from post at 08:47:42 10/03/17)
(quoted from post at 03:52:09 10/03/17)
(quoted from post at 17:33:20 10/02/17)


Seems like a John Deere kit with the crate under the motor exactly like in the picture above. Very interesting. Engine is probably a 6068 Turbo.

6068 engine would have starting motor on RH side not LH side.

It is for sure a 6068 because lower side of block has bulges that the 6059 does not have. 6059 is pretty round on the side.
Plus the exhaust manifold is not from a 6059 area.

Well, I was wrong. Learn something every day.
The truth is:
The 6359 and 6414 have the old round block.
The 6059 and 6068 have the new blocks with buldges and crevasses.
 

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